Eye of Horace?
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By benmonster
- Eye of Horace?
- Created: May 8, 2008
- Last updated: Aug 14, 2008
- After episode: 4.10: Something Nice Back Home
- Status: Current
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Is it possible that we are seeing the Eye of Horace?
— benmonster
First, this is not about a Jacob theory. I’m not trying to say that Jacob is actually Horace Goodspeed (though there is a very good chance that he is.) But in Jacob’s cabin we’ve seen a silohuette of a man with long hair. http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:3x20Jacobportrait.jpg We’ve seen Christian Shephard. http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Cap08.jpg And mostly we’ve seen an eye of a person without ever seeing his body. http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:JacobEye4x01-wide.jpg
Again, this is not a Jacob theory, but a curious theory about the “lone eye” seen in Jacob’s cabin. I’ve often wondered why the writers/directors always showed us this “lone eye”. But now that previews of Cabin Fever show us Horace Goodspeed, I’ve begun thinking about the origin of the name Horace (not to mention that he has long hair the length of Jacob). Horace is the way that most losties spell it, but certainly Horace sounds like Horus. Horus is an Egyptian god, the god of the sky.
A famous image from the myth of Horus is called the Eye of Horus. “The Eye of Horus is an ancient Egyptian symbol of protection and royal power from deities, in this case from Horus or Ra. ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EyeofHorus
It leads me to believe that Horace Goodspeed could very well be the person behind the eye that we see in Jacob’s cabin. The writers could very well be literally “winking” at us.
Key characters
| Short Name | Full Name | Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ben | Benjamin Linus | 3.20, 4.9, & 3” href=”/episodes/theres-no-place-home-parts-2-3/”>4.13 | 1588 |
| Dr. Christian | Dr. Christian Shephard | 311 | |
| Richard | Richard Alpert | 272 |
Key episodes
| # | Title | Aired | Central character | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4.10 | Something Nice Back Home | 5-1-2008 | Jack | 131 |
| 4.1 | The Beginning of the End | 1-31-2008 | Hurley | 55 |
| 3.20 | The Man Behind The Curtain | 5-9-2007 | Ben | 389 |
Key locations
| Theme | Relevant Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|
| Jacob’s Cabin | 4.1, 3.20 | 125 |
I don’t see any basis for assuming this to be correct. Your stupid little Horus connection is lame at best, and Horace himself is a pretty insignifant character. He was just a random dharma guy.
Great find. The Arithmetic Section of the Wikpedia article you sited is really interesting in terms of our numbers: 4,8, …etc. etc. This also would tie in with the backgammon theme on our show because the doubling cube in backgammon reproduces these fractions exactly. This deserves more than a +1.
I agree that it could be his eye, also Ben only closed his eyes after the purge.
why the hell is it Horace? No, this is a very stupid idea. Explain how Horace would have any connection to anybody you could propose to be Jacob.
its not stupid, considering the promos and how “NO ONE” would have guessed it. i admit id be mad if its him but he has as much of a shot as any one else, even more from seeing the promos
I really like this theory. No idea if it’s right, but it very well could be. The simple yet creative play on a name is very Lost-esque and knowing that we were given the clue to unraveling the mystery of the “eye” in Jacob’s cabin would be very fitting with the landscape of Lost. +1 — great insight.
Also, for some of our other posters, Horace may have a more significant role than one might think, as per Lostpedia’s description of Horace Goodspeed:
[gleaned from DVD extras] “Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse describe Horace and his companion Olivia as factoring significantly in the future “game plan” for Lost.”
Chrisleerooks: I can understand if you don’t accept the theory. But I do think the writers gave us a clue when they show Ben, immediately after the purge, finding Horace on the bench. Horace’s eyes are wide open. Ben then closes them. This clearly emphasizes Horace’s meaning to Ben, plus draws a small clue to his eyes without overstating it. I also believe that Ben did look upon Horace as a father figure when his own dad basically ignored him on the island.
Chrisleerocks relax, we’re talking about LOST here, the tv show that gives us a ridulously small amount of actual facts, compared to the HUGE amount of questions it leaves us with. People throw around their ideas and “theories” but really very few of them are based on actual facts from the show. It’s called being imaginative and creative…. As for the importance of Horace: “on the DVD commentary track for “The Man Behind the Curtain” Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse describe Horace and his companion Olivia as factoring significantly in the future “game plan” for Lost”….. I think its a great theory. and considering at the moment we have no clues as to who Jacob actually is, its a fun one to think about. Horace is solely responsible for bringing Ben to the island, that has to mean something….
chrisleerooks
Well based on your theories. Which add up to an impressive -78 rating, I believe you don’t know shiit.
+1 Nice find.
hahahahaha!
Just for some fun: take a look at this image of Oceanic 815 plane logo. It looks kinda like an eye to me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Oceanic.svg
Horace means: hour in time Goodspeed: comes from Godspeed, a saying to wish luck upon an individual when they embark on an enterprise, or perhaps, an Initiative.
Horace Goodspeed is the Time Man, the DI Mathamatician who dealt with the Time stuff.
Horace Goodspeed will explain something about time, as the Sneak Peak already alludes.
I love this idea. I was thinking along the same lines about a year ago when I posted a similar idea http://www.lost-theories.com/theories/2007/may/14/jacob-might-just-be-goodspeed/ Its not identical but it was before we knew much about Horace and his relationship with the island.
Great ideas +1
Hey, this has as much validity as any other theory - I like it! It’s always nice to have something new to think about. A while back when we were all studying Mikhail’s, Ben’s, and Locke’s eyes, no one even thought to throw Horace’s in the mix…why not?!
Also, we all know that the original profile we saw of Jacob was just of a crew member, not an actual cast member…but, that crew member does bear some resemblance to Horace, if only in a darkened profile. Very neat idea.
Chrisleerooks - why do you jump down people’s throats like that? Sometimes your comments seem perfectly reasonable and calm, and sometimes it seems like you are attacking and insulting for no reason. Level out, man.
Just on chrisleerooks 1st comment that horace “himself is a pretty insignifant character”. I find it unfair to say this as I found his relationship with ben quite moving. I have no doubts that along with tonight we will see Horace again in more episodes and of a character that will be more of the father figure (that he never had) for ben in future flashbacks. The directors have shown us this “bond” already by the closing of his eyes by ben right after the purge. And one cant help but wonder what a man like horace is doing working in the arrow station, …storage facility…I think not.
Sorry benmonster just repeated you, didnt quite read all the comments.Ooops.
Not a bad theory keep it up. The bottom line is that with this show no one knows until the writers reveal it to us.
chrisleerooks smells like vinegar and water… hmmm…
When I saw Ben looking at the body of Horace on the bench I thought he was feeling some regret… I thought that maybe of all the DI people, Horace might have meant some thing…
And Horace as Jacob… I’ve always thought of Jacob as angry. Horace was a hippy. They just don’t match… Hippies aren’t angry. They’re so un-angry they’re completely lame.
“First, this is not a Jacob theory. ”
Eeehm….actually this IS called a Jacob theory. ‘Cause Jacob=Eye.
But nice theory btw…! +1
Oh, and chrisleerooks, you suck.
“And Horace as Jacob… I’ve always thought of Jacob as angry. Horace was a hippy. They just don’t match… Hippies aren’t angry. They’re so un-angry they’re completely lame.”
Hippies hate technology (just like Jacob) Hippies like the Dave Matthews Band, bongs, and Granola Bars, along with hemp necklaces. :)
horus is more than just a lame random dharma character. but i seriously doubt he is jacob.
my line of thought, jacob ordered the extermination of the dharma initiative people—> Horace = dharma initiative person —> Jacob killed Horace and not himself.
plus in the preview of todays episode we see that horace is definitely dead and he appears as many of the other dead people on the island often do. as a perfectly alive person. =S
This is a good theory. I’m not quite sure if this is the route the writers are taking but +1 for an original thought regardless.
Chrisleesucks, calm down. Is it that time of the month??
I predict that the meeting between Jacob, Ben, Locke and Hurley will end in a drum circle and maybe even a full-on hippy jam fest.
benmonster, +1 for a great find and very plausible theory! Welcome!!
I know you’re not saying Horace is Jacob, but that Horace was the eye in the window of the cabin when Hurley looked in. Horace fits that eye and hairline perfectly!!
I don’t believe it was a coincidence that Horace and his wife just happened along when Ben had just been born. Then later he offered Roger Linus a job on the island, again no coincidence. Horace may have played more of a role in raising Ben than Roger did and that’s why Ben closed Horace’s eyes after the purge.
I do think we’ll see more of the back story and I hope you’re right!! :)
Tharde5
I really like your post you linked thx.
Well, sure… It could be Horace in the cabin… I agree. I still think there’s going to be a drum circle.
The producers have hinted that Jacob has appeared in a minor role before