An explanation for the Kate/Aaron & Sun/Ji Yeong situations?
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By jax
- An explanation for the Kate/Aaron & Sun/Ji Yeong situations?
- Created: Mar 18, 2008
- Last updated: Aug 14, 2008
- After episode: 3.22: Through The Looking Glass
- Status: Current
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So we know so far that Aaron is with Kate, and Jin isn’t around to see Ji Yeong. I’ve been trying to figure out why, as they cant both be dead unless they are the 2 of the 8 survivors that did not survive. They cant possibly kill off both Claire and Jin can they? But then I realised, perhaps there’s more to it than that.
Lets assume for a moment that there is a time discrepancy of far greater magnitude than already shown, between the island and the rest of the world, once they leave the island. I’m not well versed enough in time travel matters to really get to grips with that side of the theory, but I have read some pretty convincing cases for it on here so far. But purely for the sake of this theory, I am going to assume that once they leave the island, the world has moved on much further in time, they were thrown into a later time period perhaps.
They crashed in 2004, got off approximately 100+ days later, but when they got back to the rest of the world 2 or 3 years have passed.
So for example….perhaps Claire did die and Kate took responsibility for Aaron, but because of the time difference she cannot explain Aarons age and still say he is Claire’s baby. Claire was 8 months pregnant in Sept 2004 so bringing home a baby much younger than expected and stating he is Claires baby would indeed raise some VERY awkward questions. But the time difference would allow for Kate to have gotten pregnant on the island by one of the other Oceanic 6, carry to term and bring home a baby. Perhaps the story they told the world is that Aaron is Jacks baby and this is why he is so scared to become involved….to have a relationship with Kate he would also need to assume the father role and he may not be ready for that because of his own Daddy issues. It may suit him better to play the part of an estranged father for now.
So what of Jin and Sun and their baby?
Well regardless of whether Jin is alive or dead he did not come back with the others. The world is told he died on the day of the crash. So if the time is all out then as far as the rest of the world is concerned, Sun must have gotten pregnant after his death. This would cause great shame to her family and would explain why no-one was with her at the birth.
I’m still pondering on this, not 100% convinced of my own theory yet, so all imput is welcome :)
Key episodes
| # | Title | Aired | Central character | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3.22 | Through The Looking Glass | 5-23-2007 | Jack | 1252 |
Another great post, jax. There is just one problem: from the evidence of time differences on and off the island so far, it seems to work in the opposite way from what you stated in your post. That is, time moves slower on the island than it does off the island. For example, remember when Sayid and Des took off with that guy in the helicopter. It seemed like they were gone almost 2 days (I think) but it was only minutes to the people on the freighter. So time moves slower on the island, it seems. That would mean that Aaron could be as old as he is (not sure, 6 months old or so?) but the real world would think he is supposed to be younger…or not even born yet, haha!! I am not sure how all this time stuff plays into the plot, but I am just saying these things supposing your theory. If you are right and the timeline does move the way you state above, then those are both strong arguments for what happened to Jin and Claire. We shall see….
errr….wait, do I mean time moves faster on the island? well I do believe that I do. My apologies. Either way, opposite of what you posted. Haha, sorry!!
errr….wait, do I mean time moves faster on the island? well I do believe that I do. Correction!! My apologies. Either way, opposite of what you posted. Haha, sorry!!
Thanks for you comment Appolobar :) (can only see that comment at present so if anyone posts after I cannot see it….i’m not ignoring you)
I agree it does seem more evident that time moves the other way on the island….but what i’m suggesting is that perhaps something went wrong when they finally leave for good and they end up being transported to a time in the near future? At the time of the court case Aaron is around 3 years old, which could be explained by it taking that long to go to court (I dont know how long it takes for that kind of thing in the US) or it could be a time difference?
lol its ok I got what you meant….it gets confusing huh?
Great post…but you have it all backwards!!! Are we in kindergarten here Appolobar? If someting doesn’t make any sense, point it out and move on. I have watched the show since the 2nd year and I am thoroughly confused from this post and your response, I can’t imagine what a relatively new viewer would make of this. Condescension and patronization helps no one.
luv2hatelost…..
I didn’t see any condescension or patronisation in his posts atall, and I knew what he meant….I get just as confused lol
Thanks for the input though :)
Time travel get confusing :)
Jax…I had a similar thought in a theory earlier in the week… Im not sure of what the time difference could be or how it happened, but I also believe that somehow they are taking back much farther in the future and Kate has to claim that Aaron is she and Jack’s son. I just don’t think they would let an escaped felon such as Kate keep a child that were not her own (if they had indeed claimed he were Claire’s son, Thomas would have first right to his son, not Kate). For this reason, I do believe a time issues causes them to claim Aaron is Kate’s biological child.
As a new viewer, and poster, I am a bit confused (which is why I signed up). I thought Jin gets off the Island, thus the reason he was trying to buy a panda bear and get to the hospital. Did I miss something? Thanks.
If time is different on the island than anywhere else, than how did Desmond communicate with Penelope on Christmas Eve?
“The past is the present, the present is the future. It all gives me a headache.” Captain Janeway
bull and star trek? what load of bull
There’s something here. At first I was quite skeptical… like Appolobar eventually figured out, time moves faster on the island, and anyway the difference on- and off-island is only a couple of days.
But these ladies are lying about their baby daddies and I can’t figure out why.
cgk, you make really good points about Kate’s felonies and Aaron having a perfectly good, if cowardly, father out there. We all knew the Oceanic 6 is full of lies, but she MUST be lying about the baby being hers. Whether it’s to cover up another piece of the whole crazy Widmore/Paik/Ben/Freighties/fake 815 scandal or to hide a time difference, I couldn’t say.
jax, you’re totally right that Sun’s lying about Ji Yeon’s daddy. Jin died in the crash, and while she conceived soon enough after the crash that she could probably claim it had indeed been Jin, and that they had conceived pre-crash - assuming no time differential. But that still doesn’t explain why no one came to see Ji Yeon except Hurley… her lying about the dad is the only thing I (well, you!) can think of to explain that.
HMMMM!!! HMMM!!!!! This one’s got me thinking. +1
Posted this a few pages ago, but may help to identify the dilemma.
The world thinks that Kate, showing no signs of pregnancy whatsoever, boarded Flight 518, was rescued 4 months later with her baby who looks to be about 4 months old?
Only works if the world thinks they have been on the island for say a year. Then how do they explain Jin, who died in the crash, being Ji Yeon’s daughter?
Maybe the world thinks Ji Yeon’s daddy is Hurley, lol.