The Real Sickness
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By Clever_Name_Regarding_Lost
- The Real Sickness
- Created: Mar 8, 2008
- Last updated: Aug 14, 2008
- After episode: 3.22: Through The Looking Glass
- Status: Current
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Putting the illnesses together.
— Clever_Name_Regarding_Lost
The sickness suffered by Rousseau and her people left all of them dead. This was sixteen years ago. Kitterkatters64 mentioned, not along ago, that this sickness, may very well be the same sickness suffered by Des, Minkowski, and the other lad that dies (the one who initially went with Minkowski).
Well back in the day Mittelwork & Co. had to devise a virus that killed exactly 30% of the population to test the Valenzetti equation and change the variables in said equation. I will come back to this.
Anyway, if the equation remains unchanged, maybe the exact 30% were never disposed of and maybe it killed more.Maybe this virus, created by Mittelwork & Co. killed Rousseau’s crew, and going by recent posts, maybe it killed Minkowski. Maybe the virus devised by Mittelwork is this ‘unconscious time travel’.
Up to now, this theory states that Mittelwork’s virus, killed Rousseau’s crew and Minkowski. Next is, how was the virus created.
Faraday asked in ‘the constant’ if anyone had recntly been exposed to massive amounts of electromagnetism. When the hatch exploded everyone was except Kate, Jack, Hurley and Sawyer (who were on the other side of the island, hostages of the Others) and Jin, Sun and Sayid (who were on Des’ boat) travelling around the island. I mention this because it could lead to who can and cannot leave the island, due to chances of this sickness. What Faraday alludes to in his question is that the EMP is the cause of this sickness. This is why Des gets sick and Sayid does not, because Sayid was not present at the explosion.
At one time, the losties had the ability to keep the electromagnetism in check. This was by typing number into the computer in the Swan. The numbers are the numbers in the Valenzetti equation (I promised I’d get back to it). The sickness, which should kill 30%, was invented to change the numbers in the equation. The equation is simply referred to as 4, 8, 15,16,23,42. That is not an equation. That is a bunch of numbers. If these numbers are subject to change, then they are variables. All equations need a constant, for example The diameter of a circle = Pi (the constant) x radius (variable) squared.
In essence, Des bet the sickness because he found the constant int he equation. By beating the sickness he changed the rules of the game. He changed the rules of the game by using time travel to his advantage by getting Penelope’s phone number. Did Des change a variable in the Valenzetti equation? Penelope is Des’ constant. Des is Faraday’s constant. Cool, nice end. Think about it globally. Everyone is interconnected someway off the island. Maybe the Losties are the answers to the Valenzetti equation. Everyone on the island is someone else’s constant.
In conclusion, Mittelwork’s virus is what killed Minkowski. Des overcame this by finding the constant. This constant may be able to change the equation. Thoughts, questions, suggestions?
Key characters
| Short Name | Full Name | Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|
| Desmond | Desmond David Hume | 2.23, 3.17, 4.5 | 859 |
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I dont think that a virus could have caused the time jumps at all, and the virus did not kill Minkowski because he is (supposedly) outside the island. I was gonna give a -1 but by mistake placed a +1 sry about that.
THERE IS A spoiler IN THIS comment regargeding THE oceanic SIX
i really like this theory. the theory that Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Jin weren’t present at the time of the hatch explosion can contribute to the fact as to why they are the Oceanic Six. They are not affected while leaving the Island and it is my guess that the losties will discover this (possibly via Daniel?) and these six are the only ones that can leave the Island. It is assumed the Sawyer doesn’t want to leave and this is the only reason he is not one of the Oceanic 6 while there may be multiple reasons for the other survivors.
by the way i’m new, the names Shaun.
Hi Shaun and welcome = ) ..just a little response to think about.
We saw that once the rat was iradiated by the purpleish/pinkish light it effectively travelled in the future, so what was the light that enveloped the whole island during the elctromagnetic meltdown, wasnt it similar to the purpleish/pinkish light that hit the rat? We also saw that everyone eccept the folks that were in the hatch saw it, I wonder why that is? I believe there is a diffrent reason why the Oceanic 6 are able to leave.
Interesting theory, but you’re overlooking the fact that Kate, when back from the island, has a son. A little blond boy named Aaron. Either he’s actually Claire’s baby Aaron, or it’s just a coincidence that Kate will have a boy very soon and give him the same name. So, something’ s going to happen to Claire, Kate will take care of Aaron and Aaron is also one of the six. Also - remember from season 1 (I think) when the psychic told Claire it was crucial that she raise the baby herself or there would be terrible consequences? She was on flight 815 in the first place because she was going to give Aaron up for adoption.
Only one more of the six to be revealed… My money’s on Desmond, but I could be wrong.
deweylee,
I agree with you about Aaron being number five. Right before the episode aired, the advertisement said that another of the Oceanic Six would be revealed. At that point we knew that Kate, Jack, Sayid and Hurley were the first 4… so I think Aaron is #5.
However, Desmond cannot be one of the Oceanic six because he was not on the flight. He may very well get off the island, but will not be one of the “Oceanic 6”
All the time, i’m not saying a virus causes time travel (im not saying time travel at all) I’m saying the jumps in consciousness cause something to happen to an individual that cause symptoms resembling a sickness. There is NO sickness, just consequences of exposure to the EMP and trying to get off the island.
Deweylee & Secrets,
Even though Aaron gets off the island, I ASSURE you he is not one of the O6.
Clever, I totally see where you are going with this and would love to hear you expand your thoughts about how everyone would be interconnected off of “the island”. +1
You are also right about “the virus” being responsible for Minkowski’s death. Finding the ‘constant’ allows you to remain safe in both places.
I am wondering if the objective of being able to access the past from the present vantage point of knowledge, was designed to be able to alter future events, good or bad?
I don’t believe I articulated the above paragraph very well. The information isn’t transmuting from brain onto paper. lol Hope you can sort through it.
Interesting thoughts!
Nice work, Clever! +1 for putting the illnesses altogether!
I like the thinking behind this… but I struggle to corroborate a virus with the side effect of mental time displacement.
What I mean is, I don’t think the time travel side effect could be administered to someone via a syringe, whereas a virus could.
Do you have references about Mittelwerk’s 30% population cull? I’ve never heard that before (or don’t remember it - is it from the Lost Experience?) and would be interested in knowing more.
Angelo,
I believe I was reading the stuff about Mittelwork from lostpedia which was disclosed in TLE and can be seen in a few Hanso and Mittelwork videos which are apparently on youtube. Hope that helps.
Interesting. I had posted a theory stating that Russo had killed her team becasue she thought they were infected by a virus (erratic behavior, nose bleeds, etc) But I had never considered that the time jumping may be the “virus” (though actuall not a virus, just causing virus-like symptoms)
But would Mittleworks, a bio-tech company if I’m not mistaken, be involved in time-travel technology?
Hey, Clever_NameRegardingLost, check out my post below and see if it fits in with your theory…I think it does.
By the way…You came up with a great screen name!
http://lost-theories.com/theories/2008/feb/29/danielle-sickness-quarentine-a/
Yeah this post is made entirely irrelevant by the fact that Aaron got off the island. Of course he’s not one of the Oceanic 6, as he was not on the flight (well, he was in utero), but as he was close to the hatch when it exploded, he should have gotten the sickness when he left the island.
I’ve heard suggested that this is due to the vaccine he and Claire took, but didn’t Desmond get the vaccine, too? I’m confused.
I definitely think the time-slippage was Rousseau’s “sickness” though. It was a scientific expedition, so it makes sense that most of the team would have been exposed to electromagnetism, while Rousseau herself was probably shielded due to her pregnancy.