Man in Widmore Video
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By dannyBOONE
- Man in Widmore Video
- Created: Mar 7, 2008
- Last updated: Sep 3, 2008
- After episode: 3.22: Through The Looking Glass
- Status: Current
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Widmore is personally aware of Ben!
— dannyBOONE
I’m particularly proud of this one, so be gentle! Who is the man in the Widmore video? None other than Thomas Linus!
The first clue I noticed for this idea is fairly weak, but plausible none-the-less. If you watch Ben’s reaction while he’s showing the tape to Locke, there’s something about his bearing that’s just…well, it’s barely controlled rage. We’ve seen Ben be ruthless and merciless when it comes to his people. He has no problem sending his people to their death in ‘defense’ of the island. But for some reason, he takes this beating very personally.
Another thought along those lines…Widmore sees the videographer! I sincerely doubt the person taping this got away. And yet, Ben has this tape. Widmore knows who Ben is and has sent the freighter and its people after him. NOTE: Widmore is personally aware of Ben! This is not just about the island. Widmore knows Ben and has caught Ben’s son. I think Widmore personally beats Thomas and makes sure Ben finds out about it, by ensuring the tape is released to Ben. (This answers alot of questions about why Widmore beats the man himself, instead of one of his lackeys. (A big “Up Yours!” to Ben) There is some personal animosity between CW and Ben, I think!
We also have proof that CW has knowledge of Thomas through the artwork in his office.
Also, compare the man in the video with the actor who portrays Thomas. Take particular note of the ear and jawline. The black&white picture on imdb is particularly good for this comparison. The links are here…
http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2008/03/bens-widmore-video.html http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1218757/
This would also provide verification that Thomas is Ben’s son, proving that Aaron is Ben’s grandson. I personally believe that Christian is Jacob’s son. If we play into this (amuse me here) would it be inconceivable for Ben to discover that Christian has an illegitimate daughter (Claire)? And to send his son, Thomas, to seduce Claire, ensuring that his bloodline mingles with Jacob’s? This also assumes that Jacob’s bloodline is “special” in some way. Jack is of this bloodline, and this may contribute to what his tattoo says, “he walks amongst us, but he is not one of us.”
Key characters
| Short Name | Full Name | Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|
| Aaron | Aaron Littleton | 363 | |
| Charles | Charles Widmore | 411 | |
| Dr. Christian | Dr. Christian Shephard | 338 | |
| Jack | Jack Shephard | 1.1, 1.5, 2.11, 1.11, 1.16, 1.20, 3.9, 3.22, 3.1, 4.10, 4.12, & 3” href=”/episodes/theres-no-place-home-parts-2-3/”>4.13 | 1459 |
| Thomas | Thomas (Claire’s Ex) | 78 |
Key episodes
| # | Title | Aired | Central character | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3.8 | Flashes Before Your Eyes | 2-14-2007 | Penny | 233 |
| 1.10 | Raised by Another | 12-1-2004 | Claire | 104 |
Interesting stuff!
Whooa, WHAT? Cool idea! Huh. Gotta watch these episodes again I guess!
Hold up…may be I missed something…
How do we know Thomas’ last name is Linus?? If so that has a lot of implications and it makes sense but didnt Ben when he first came to the island was the only child??
I’m confused if someone could clarify that would be awesome!
I don’t think we do know that, but people have speculated because Ben and Thomas look so much alike. It’s been floating around here as a possibility for a while.
I like it……I like it allot = )
I also believe Jacob is Christian Shephard’s father. I wrote this based on this very same idea:
http://lost-theories.com/theories/2008/feb/27/identity-jacob-clue-pilot-epis/
Where did we see Thomas? I dont remember ever seeing him!
Good theorizing. I like the way your brain works.
Twilight, I think the theory on how he has a kid off the island is that he got Annie pregnant, and she left to escape The Island’s baby killing tendencies.
OMG I knew it! I knew it! Lol, well I had a theory and it falls in line with what you suggest here:
http://lost-theories.com/theories/2007/dec/16/theory-derived-names-aaron-ben/
But if this is true, it seems like the writers have used lots of biblical references and I read another theory that stated that Jacob was indeed an angel as in religious texts and God no longer loves Jacob so the island is like Jacob’s prison and God doesn’t see/know about the island etc.
In my opinion, that would be too much. But we’ll see.. Anything could happen. and +1.
Nice stuff. You lost me at the end, but its still good. You might be on to something here.
Who the hell is Thomas Linus???
So Annie escaped to Australia and had Thomas. That makes sense. I’m sold that Aaron is Ben’s grandson. I don’t think Ben would have had to set up a Thomas-Claire hook-up, though. Extreme coincidences are very common and require no explanations on Lost (because everyone is puppets to Jacob’s will?).
We don’t know if he really is Thomas ‘Linus’ yet. He is Claire’s ex and Aaron’s father. I personally think he is not Ben’s son but they could be related.
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Thomas.jpg
nice thought sunshine. Annie could have gotten pregnant on the island and gone to Australia to have the baby (Thomas). You CAN get pregnant on the island and still live, but you must get off the island before a certain phase of your pregnancy. This is indicated by the previews of next weeks episode. Sun is referred to and Juliette says “if she doesn’t get off the island in three weeks she will die”.
Well done and great work! Thanks for the interesting read! +1
Could it be Thomas, a character that has only been in one episode from season one? Maybe. Is Thomas the son of Ben Linus? doubtful (obviously not conceived on the island, but then Ben spends plenty of time off the island). -1 for making me spend an hour researching Thomas Linus only to find that he’s only ever referenced as “Thomas”.
Good theory, it makes sense. Definitely, it looked to me like Widmore was sending a message to someone, and it was personal. This is a man who won’t touch anything in a public restroom, yet does the beating himself. And I agree that Ben’s reaction seemed to indicate it was personal to him as well.
I didn’t see the face of the person who was being beaten, but the size seemed about right for Thomas. Given the connection of Thomas’s artwork with both Ben and Widmore, I think there is a good possibilty that it was Thomas and that Thomas does turn out to be Ben’s son.
Danny, Although I don’t know if it is Thomas, or not, I do think the premise that it was a personal attack against Ben by Widmore, is more than accurate.
What better way to flush Ben out, than to make it a personal and send Ben a message! Can’t wait to see these to go head to head and lock horns!
Very creative, Danny! Just love it!
Caleb - why do you say “obviously not conceived on the island”?
You can’t concieve on the island mother & child die.
Danny, I hate to dampen your enthusiasm but none of this is hitting a note with me.
Richard Malkin stated that Thomas - the father of Aaron - will have no further part to play in the life of the baby. This was important in establishing the importance that Claire be the sole guiding factor in Aaron’s life. That’s what weighs on my thoughts every time Thomas is ever mentioned (especially in those notions that he is the son or brother or grandson or whatever of Ben!).
I also think the person controlling the camera did get away. They turned it off the moment Charles looked up (presumably to make a quick getaway with the footage they had acquired). This makes the idea that Charles submitted the film to Ben null. (And it would also render a burgeoning plot point - that Charles and Ben are at odds and against each other - cast into a bizarre anatagonistic quagmire; they know one another!)
Why did Charles do the beating himself? So we, as an audience, could see what a nasty man he was. The beating was totally brutal. The point being: we have a villain.
I think there is definitely some connection between Charles Widmore and Thomas. The painting in Widmore’s office, and Thomas’ apartment studio seem to be enough proof of that. Plus the mural in the Swan station also has similarities. I guess we shall have to wait and see.
I am going to raise another possibility here though , I think Thomas could be Charles Widmore’s son ! +1
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Thomas
damn he looks like ben
Angelo, I don’t think you can dismiss this just based on what a so-called psychic said. And this post did not have much to do with Thomas coming back into Claires life, or “having any further role to play in the life of Aaron”. It was more based on a possible Ben-Thomas relationship, not a Thomas-Claire-Aron relationship.
I think Thomas looks like Ben, too, but we can’t base family connections on that entirely. Hurley looks nothing like Cheech.
I’m just going to throw this out there.
The guy on the tape also looks like charlie’s brother Liam http://www.imdb.com/media/rm439917824/nm0394248
I’m not sure what that means…
I also have a theory connecting Widmore to Aaron. My theory is that Widmore arranged Aaron’s conception, similar to “Rosemary’s baby” to gain more power. Some of your theory actually plays into mine. I didn’t notice who Widmore’s goons were beating up but if it was Thomas, maybe he was upset that things didn’t go as planned.