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Wow. I like to think of myself as a seasoned and cynical-ish reviewer of theories, but this one completely blew me away-although it might not happen, it certainly fits extremely well.

+1!

Of course they teleport off the island! That jives perfectly with string theory and the island moving through a wormhole. You’re brilliant.

Just for fun try to relate Lost to ” Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There” Maybe Kate is Alice, Hurley and Charlie are Twiddle dee and Twidle Dum, Smokey is Jabberwockey, Jacob could be Humpty Dumpty, Ben the Mad Hatter, Jacob could also be the red queen because it remains stationary. Jack and Locke are the Walrus and the Carpenter. The book is a chess game, two sides fighting each other to reach a final goal.

Dave-have you actually read “Through the looking glass”?

C’est bon! Merci CrazyFrenchMan. Tres interesant.

Very good. Thank you CrazyFrenchMan. Very interesting. :)

Sort of the time doors in the Golden Compass Trilogy. +1

Your English is perfect, CrazyFrenchMan, and your idea is excellent too. You get my vote. If Dharma had a teleportation site and wanted to hide it, the Looking Glass would have been the perfect place. While most of the Others spent their time in New Otherton, there was a staff on duty at the Looking Glass. It must have been pretty important; it takes a lot of energy to keep such a place pressurized and oxygenated.

Bravo crazy french man, a definate plus one! I think its pretty clear that there is way to come and go from the island that we have not yet learned about. Also, give yourself some credit for your English, which I found to be very good indeed! Believe me, you have a better grasp of it than some of the people I’ve met, who grew up speaking it!

The idea of teleporting from one part of the island to another seems to be uninteresting. What’s the point? Seems like overkill

Hi RealSayyid. This is not about teleporting from ane place to the other, on the island, but about teleporting from the island (in this theory : the looking glass station) to the the mainland (who knows where… yet?) and making it easier to the others to come and go from the island. And at the same time to create an opening for Jack & co to go back in season 5 or 6 and this wherever the island has been moved to a the end of season 4. [Knew my english would loose some of you guys!]

Perhaps there is another magic box in Ben’s hidden room - either direct to the mainland or to the Looking Glass station since Ben goes in his hidden room after his daughter is killed and ends up on the mainland without, apparantly, having to swim to the Looking Glass.

+1

however, i thought that Ben had already convinced the others that the looking glass was flooded - as Mikhiall was not aware that the 2 girls were down there (he thought they were on assignment in canada) if they were unaware of the station being in operation, how could tom, richard etc be using it to travel to and from the island - sorry to be against your theory, it was very well put :)

anyone think this is right?

Hi richuk I also thought of that but Tom himself explains that only a limited number of others can make it to mainland once in a while (to indulge themselves… and surely not only that). It could be that the inner circle of Ben (Richard+Ethan+Tom - at least when the two last ones were alive) were part of this inner circle and knew better than the rest of the others. So the theory would still work… but as you say this is only and will remain a theory untill we see how things develop in the last two seasons.

I’m currently dating a French woman, so believe me when I say that your English is very good.

As for your theory, I’ve always believed that they drugged Juliette to prevent any Minkowski-like complications.

Excellent ! This is worth a +1 at least crazy frenchman.

By the way Juliette did not risk Minkovski-like complications YouAllEverybody. For that you need to be exposed to electromagnetism (see what happens with Des). Also not sure any drug would chage anything to what happened to Minkov and Des…

Any idea where could be the other side of the door anyone ?

Hi there

Youalleverybody you have all my sympathy for dating a french woman.

I would tend to stick with the idea brought by Kingofthehill that the Minkowski effect is related to strong exposure to electromagnetism phenomenon only, so Juliet or other newcomers should not normally be affected. However we all see that a lot of the freighter’s people are affected by the proximity of the island (several comit suicide after all!) so you might well have a valid point there.

Now still sticking with my idea of door/magic box allowing teleportation to mainland, I will also be interested by suggestion as to where the other side of the door could be. Australia near the place where the faith healer Isaac was found ? (Would like Isaac to be involved in some way). Or a secret heavily guarded facility somewhere in the US ? I would think most of the elements of the puzzle are gathered now so I tend to believe this is a place we have already seen or heard of at some point in the show. Any idea from some of you ?

Highly realistic ! Should almost be classified as a spoiler ! ; ) Well done ! +1 !

I love it! My favorite theory since my last one ;)

As for the other side… Portland? Mittelos had some sort of facility there where they showed Juliet those ultrasounds or X-rays or whatever.

A theorist more willing to research than me could look up the vortices of energy or whatever - I’m sure I’ve seen a map before - and think of a better idea of where the “chute” (as I’ve now decided to call it) might lead. Portland was just the first place that popped into my head - maybe cos I’m road tripping there in a couple weeks :)

Didn’t Sayid have a blueprint of the Looking Glass? We saw it on screen. Someone should go back and see if there’s proof of a section that wasn’t blown up. I believe he did say at the time that the moon pool was designed for the sub to dock there. After Juliet took the chute to the island, they could have just carried her to the sub and then… well, we saw the rest.

Anyway, definitely the best theory I’ve read in a long time, I wish I could give more than a +1, but…

+1

omg, I just noticed your pull quote and I had to add that I LOVE IT!

It makes sense to me that Ben and the higher level Others would be the only ones to know of the Looking Glass. Why would they lie to the Others about its being flooded, and why would they keep it staffed unless it had some vital use. Was it just to be used for communication with the radio? I doubt it. There’s a huge antenna right there; if they wanted to send out radio signals they could. I think there’s something in the Looking Glass Ben didn’t want the Others to know about; possibly a portal

Here is some more about the looking glass looking back at the last episodes of season 3. Sayid shows briefly a plan labelled (A) to Jack (Are there (B) and (C) plans somewhere else?). Several things are visible on the plan : a) a cross section of the station showing that the submarine docks there (left side of the page) b) a map describes some some of the rooms of the looking glass (right side of the page). On the left of the map we can see a part labelled as “canteen ROOM” with some rooms next to it. On the top we can see some ulabelled rooms. On the bottom there are two doors without any mention of what is behind it. On the right side a corridor with a “DOOR” labelled there. Note that there is no mention of either “communication room” with the jamming equipment, and of the windows we can see when Charlie and Desmond go down there. Still there appears to be a vast part of the station which is not described on the map. So quite enough space left for the “door/magic box”.

Second part of some more remarks on the theory: when Bonnie calls Ben we can (in my opinion) read several reactions on Ben and the others faces: a) Ben receives the call from Bonnie. Immediately he looks up at Richard who seems to understand immediately who Ben is speaking with and looks concerned. Richard walks toward Ben attentive to the conversation but looks calm. Mikhail is behind walking more slowly and looks like thinking - to me this is because Mikhail had been led to believe that the station was flooded. He needs to gather his thoughts beyond the simple content of the conversation taking place now. b) Ben looses his calm: “Who? Which one of them?”. His eyes are unfocused under shock of the news. “How…? How does he know about the station ?” Still very worried voice. c) Bonnie “He said Juliet told them about the station.” Several seconds of silence. Strangely, the tension seems to wear off somehow. Ben regains his composure and looks resentful (betrayal of Juliet). Richard looks around as if saying “… was sure something like that would happen…!” and thinks so hard “… why the heck did Ben bring this Juliet here for his stupid fertility experiments” (see here how he feels that Ben made them waste their time when Richard discusses with John in some other episode). d) Ben addresses to Mikhail. Although his voice is till checking a little he seems now back in control. He sends Mikhail to find out what is happening. Mikhail says “You told us the looking glass was inoperable. Flooded.” Well I think Ben told Mikhail such things but not to everyone. (See the reaction of Richard who does not say a word). In my opinion he knew the station was still operational. e) Mikhail adds “But is Juliet told them about the looking glass… what else did she tell them…?” Ben and Richard look at each other during a few silent seconds thinking of the imminent attack on the Losties. - see next message for my conclusions ->

-> Follow up of previous message To sum up on this dialogs: 1- Richard seems more clam that Mikhail. For me he knew the station was till operational and guarded. 2- Ben seems almost relieved (or at least regains his calm) when he hears that this is Juliet who told the Losties about the looking glass station. This could be because Ben knows that Jiliet is not aware of so much about the station. She knows that it can jam signals to the outside world but nothing more. In my theory, Juliet is not aware of the “door/magic box” located in the looking glass. 3- Mikhail is pretty upset. This is because he discovers that Ben lied to him pretending the looking glas was flooded. Ben wanted Mikhail to ignore this. Why? Mikhail could see by himself that the jaming system was still operational being the guardian of the communication station on the island. So there must be something else on the looking glass station that Ben wanted Mikhail to believe what not accessible anymore: the “door/magic box”. I believe this is because Ben wants most of his followers to believe that there is no easy way to reach the mainland. To induce them to better accept being stranded there. Only a handful of picked followers know and use the “door” to differing missions on mainland: go capture Anthony Cooper, go fetch informations on the Losties, go hire Michael as a spy on the freighter, etc…

Very convincing ! +1 ! For me the other side has to be in Portland.

I’m sorry KOTH and CFM, I didn’t mean the nose bleeds and mind-shifting, I meant all of the craziness that happened to the Kihana’s crew. People went crazy after just trying to travel to the island. Kind of sounds like Rousseau’s crew, actually.

Although, Faraday seemed ok when he shuttled people back and forth.

Hi YAE

I agree about the craziness issue. Still it remains that it is unlikely that Tom for instance did have the time to go to and back from NY using the sailboat (only boat that seems to remain on the island ?) in season 3 to recruit Michael. How long exactly is Tom missing? I think not more than a few days (need to review season 3). So there must be a quicker way to make it to mainland: the “door” I believe to exist in the looking glass.

Either way the theory is double:

1- I think the “door” is in the looking glass - it might of course be in another place not visited yet, but then why the sub? Also I think there are already enough stations to use for the show. Is there really any need to add sompe new one?

2- I think the very existence of such a door is the key that will permit Ben to bring back Jack and co to the island.

For the “other side” of the door, why not in Portland? As mentionned before, the universe of Lost is already rich eanough. Why add some new place? So I would also see the other side in Portland hidden somewhere in a Mittelos underground complex for instance.

To Griffs77

1- Ben does not end up on the mainland after visiting his secret room, but after turning the wheel.

2- We see there are other others travelling to mainland. I don’t see Ben allowing them in his own secret room near where was only found his own fake ID’s and stuff. I see the secret room of Ben as a place to call for the smoke monster. Finally I do not see Ben wanting to leave the barracks to Keamy and co if such an important place like the “door/magic box” is located there. Imagine the Widmore’s guys finding the door : the next day you would have a whole Widmore army on the island!

The looking glass is much more discreet and quite important in my view, a much easier place to destroy, would the “door/magic box” fall into the wrong hands…

Crazy, I’m wondering about the portal. The now-destroyed enclosure in the Orchid station and the ‘frozen donkey wheel’ were on dry land, seemingly in close connection to the unique ‘properties of the island’. In addition, the swan station seemed to sit right on a strong electromagnetic source (before it imploded). Well, the Looking Glass is submerged in the water, presumably with no connection to the land. Would electromagnetic ‘vortices’ work so far from the island? Just a thought.

Well Truewalker, when the ships pass into the zone of the island (time-zone/dimension-zone,…), it is not on dry land but somes miles away from the island I believe. It could make sense to have a station not so far from the point of “passage” to build the portal, couldn’t it?

Now assuming the portal is on the island (I am not stubborn, I just like the James Bond-like flavor of boarding unaware people through the looking glass), it has to be in a hidden place where the others not all have access and is well defended.

None of the stations we saw were really fitting that description (or deserted and open to incursions of everyone, or occupied by Desmond) except in my opinion the Orchid (but not guarded - probably due to the hidden levels difficult to find and the difficulty of reaching the cave with the wheel - you could spend years trying to figure out exploding the wall).

Other possibility: a station/place we did not see yet. Maybe somewhere around the “Temple” that we still have to discover?

Or some very well hidden new station we never heard of yet… which is very possible as such a place qualifies as top-security.

Another thought Truewalker.

Why put the jamming equipement in the looking glass ? Isn’t it because it appeared the most secure and secluded station of the island ? Couldn’t it also be because doing so gave an excuse to let Bonnie and Greta guard the place without having to reveal them the exact nature of what they guarded ? (typical secrecy of LOST).

After all when you look at the Others you don’t have so many skilled fighters amongst them. Ben could spare a couple of extra fighters by putting together jamming equipement and portal/magic box.

Not truly trying to convince everybody (only time will tell), but just pointing some logic around the theory.

I have to agree that a lot has been hidden from the Others. I think Ben can’t go back to the island because the Others would kill him if they could get their hands on him now.

TrueWalker… “How many times will I have to tell you… I [Ben] always have a plan!”

More seriously now, who could make a better leader than Ben?

Ben has a vision (his agenda still needs to be found I believe), deep knowledge of the island, abilities for secrecy, and for people “benipulation” even in the most dire/adverse circumstances. He can finlally be tought as a leader should be.

I very (truly very) like Locke but I do not see him living up to the job (and for practical purposes it seems it end-up dead by the way - even though we know that what we see in the show is often misleading.

The others are too used to follow a strong leader to do long without Ben and would be all too happy to see him back after the interim period of Locke’s leadership (at least this is my opinion).

Note that it does not mean I think that Ben’s leadership is the best for the others or that he is the good guy he claims to be…

Time will tell.

Agreed! 100%. Well, maybe not the additional note, but I think you’re spot on otherwise, so who knows! +1 of course!

ok i didnt see this in here so i thought id add it. in season 3 when locke kate and sayid go to rescue jack ben tells richard alplet to get the man from talahasie and within hours lockes dad is on the island. i think this alone is proff enough that they can either (teleport people onto the island/ leave and return with things from the outside world). also in this episode ben tells locke that the “magic box” is metaphoric meaning that there is no magic box as such. i think what was ment by that is if ben wants something it ends up on the island(a few examples a spinal surgeon, a way of blowing up a submarine, and a pregnant lostie/s) yeah i got bad spelling and grammer hope this is readable enough fell free to help me help you expand this idea i like the idea of the box/room being in the looking glass but wouldnt that be to obvious? :)

oh before i forget to say this i agree that the otherside of the portal could be portland. why well because ben was born 32 miles from portland and a di rescued him and his father and then employed his father to work on the island. plus the name is fitting tele”port”land