movies, lost? not a theory a rant!
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By figgyfox
- movies, lost? not a theory a rant!
- Created: Jan 28, 2008
- Last updated: Aug 13, 2008
- After episode: 3.22: Through The Looking Glass
- Status: Current
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im gonna keep this one short……as usual.
Why on this one page alone are there theorys that the lost story is based on donnie darko? frequency? and even roadhouse to some degree? what the hell is going on ? lost is its own story for christs sake why would you, i,or anybody want to watch a rip off of a movie that was not long ago made? it just seems crazy. I kind of thought jack was called sheperd because he is meant to be a leader or something or it is just a very common everyman name,but no it all makes sense the woman who plays juliette was in a movie called frequency and the madman who was after her was called jack shepard so arter they cast her in season 3 they totally rewrote the show so they could remake that classic of modern cinema frequency! yes yes it all makes sense now yes this will make for very satisfying viewing from me…………in case you couldnt tell i was being sarcastic . I dont mean to get down on anyboby who visits this site at all ……………..exept you ninadelaluz………..but i am just tired of people thinking the writers are that lazy to stoop so low as to steal other peoples ideas.I for one would hate to think that after seven years of stringing me along i will be gifted with a payoff that i have already seen,or got the jist of from a movie already made.What a waste of seven years. Anyway as i have already said i know it wont be some rehash of some old movie so can you please lay off with these theories! PS please have it for the record that there are no bad feelings meant from anything i ever say ever………..even you nina………….. I will be looking forward to any comments although it does seem rather quiet on here today. Ozzig ding ding round two?
i completely agree
Figgy, what would we do without you to set us all straight ? Once again I find myself in the predicament of agreeing with you to a point but sensing that your delivery might not be well-received. You are correct that the writers are not copying other people’s movies. That does not mean they aren’t above using a theme or scene of 2 from time to time. Writers do it all the time. But good writers will give it their own little twist.
But then, that’s not exactly what you’re talking about, and yes I do get what you are saying. I don’t think most people are thinking that the witers stole the plot of Frequency, etc. Just noting “hey what a coincidence”. Let’s face it, there has been precious little new anything for discussion for a long time. People are restless. As apparently, so are you. And myself, for being here. Ding ding, round 2.
Figgy Will you please go backand look at the previous post : http://www.lost-theories/theories/2008/jan/28/lost-movie-frequency-thought/ If after reading what I had to say and looking at the trailer for “Frequency” if you still feel the same, that is your right. I just don’t think there is a person here that has all the answers about Lost. We are all just exploring different ideas!
Well yes i think your probely right ozzig………ohhh….youve made me come over quite depressed for some reason….im not sure if i can commence with round two now you would prob be at an unfair advantage.
Sorry, bad link I forgot the .com http://www.lost-theories.com/theories/2008/jan/28/lost-movie-frequency-thought/ If it doesn’t work this time you know what I mean anyway. :)
Figgy: I didn’t mean to depress you, although having an unfair advantage does appeal to me. However, I will not go for round 2 since you are not up to par. It just wouldn’t be right.
Sorry ksj im not saying that we have all the answers or ever will i just dont think that any major part of the show will be based on any film, tv show, book or whatever.Lost is supposed to be unique thats what makes it so great,tell me you dont agree…….come on deep down you know im right. I have seen frequency by the way i thought it was good.
ozzig ,Thank you, for stating things so much better than I ever could .And now on to Chapter 5 of Find815 !! I hope Sam does not make it too hard on us! I am getting way too stoked thinking of Thursday …Finally what we have all been waiting for….
Thanks Figgy. Enough said. Except look at my poor timing I came right between you and ozzig!
not up to par ozzig? not up to par?…..you have offended my honor i challenge you to a duel…….figgy procedes to remove his glove and slaps ozzig across the cheek!….lol
KSJ: Time for that Mutual Admiration Club you mentioned once before! You shouldn’t say that sort of thing, you always say things very well, have good ideas, and get your points across—and are always much nicer about it than I could ever hope to be!
Figgy, I’m beginning to understand why all the female foxes have run away from you! Slapping across the face with a glove? Challenge to a duel? My what a hunk of a sweet-talker you are!
Uh oh now I feel like I’m Desmond and got in the way of that bat slinging meant for the bartender. I guess we can now refer to you figgy,as a He. It’s not always evident concerning genders! lol
hey i can be a smooth talker when i need to be ozz maybe one day you will find out!… that was just one of my many,many poor attempts at comedy.
Dontr worry ksj i like to think of this as pretty much an open contest feel free to join in,……….yes i am a man but oh what a man i am!
I sure hope I’ve got this straight now, Ms. ozzig , Mr. figgy, and of course we know kate is a lady. Right!
Yes, just like your version of “our song” you played yesterday, you know, the set em up, knock em down? I didn’t say your attempt at comedy was poor, but you know I’m a backatcha kinda person…
KSJ, now that you realize he is a he, you do realize this means “all’s fair…” He sounds so confident, surely he can handle both of us!
maybe i should come up with some sort of sign for when im being sarcastic, i know my attempts at comedy are not poor im a comedy genius baby you should know that by now ozz ## ……….## will be my sign for sarcasm.. do you see what i did there? yeah im good i know,and if anything 2v1 just isnt enough bring it on!
This a Whatta Man! http://youtube.com/watch?v=yLezLlPKbVA
J.J. is that you? trying to divert our attention away from the true sources eh? well you’re not fooling me, i’m going to blockbuster to snag a copy of frequency before they are all rented!
Figgy, we are in sync, you just don’t know it! I recognize your sarcasm, it is you who does not recognize mine!
And sure, just the very minute I hint that I’m not possessive, just look what you do, you FickleFox!
KSJ, LOL! Figgy, if you look like Sawyer, you will go far on this website. Alas, I’m not partial to Sawyer-types myself.
Figgy, I would be inclined to agree with your statements regarding writers.
Although, the writers of Lost have been inspired by many of their own favourite writers, movies, tv shows, books, comics, games, etc., I feel it is an absolute insult for anyone to presume that they lack in creativity so desperately that they would essentially stoop to the level of what amounts to plagiarism! I can’t think of anything more insulting and degrading to a writer! I find it very offensive!
PS, I have noted the level of mind numbing crap and questions long ago answered, which exist in multitude and plenty on this site recently, and hope that once S4 begins, people will resume with the viable, top notched theories we have become accustomed to!
BTW; I apologize to anyone who views this as an elitist attitude. It’s the plain truth, like it or not!
Actually Figgy, I agree with you….and then I don’t.
Like you, I do not believe that the writers are simply copying other storylines, but I do believe that they are paying homage to them. They are simply and subtly paying their respects to the great Sci-Fi writers who preceeded them.
You may laugh, but Star Trek, the original series, had some of the most creative and imaginative writers around. Long before LOST was ever a glimmer in our eyes, D.C. Fontana, one of the lead writers of Star Trek, wowed viewers with stories of time travel, parallel universes, mystery and murder. And we all know Stephen King to be a MAJOR influence of the writers…they’ve said so themselves.
I look at LOST like a collage of all the great and innovative stories of the past meshed together with some completely mind-boggling new ideas. A delishious ragu of the old and new.
What the fans are doing is pointing out the obvious and the not-so-obvious parallels in the storyline.
People are thinking and talking and getting creative with the way they see the show. If I were a writer, I could receive no higher compliment.
ozzig, I thought we were in sync, you know good old Sychronicity Seriously I love all you guys! I know. I know, I stole Prof’s line!!
This has been a ton of fun guys, but I have to go see what Sam has gotten himself into now! CU
Ozz of course i recognise your humour,i feel as if we have made a connection,i wouldnt have come on here to try and wind you up otherwise…….
and that was meant totally straight up for once.
Dab , that took courage! I wasn’t able to bring myself to say that. But I think we know a lot of it isn’t newbie-related.
Figgy, looks like I needn’t have worried for you, you’ve done quite well.
KSJ, let’s always stay in sync (but please, no boy band vid’s LOL)
Oh, Figgy-poo, now that can melt a heart LOL!
hang on ozz you say dab had courage, courage of what ? what she said is exactly what i am saying why do people think the writers are lazy enough to copy someone elses work? its insulting to them,have i missed something?biatch i take it you gave me -1 ? very dissapointing.
Figgy she agreed with you, I doubt she negged you. I was referring to what she said in her PS, she went a little farther than you with that. You had courage for bringing it up in the first place, that’s why I thought it might not be well-received. But it has been, you do see that?
yeh of course ozz i think i might be coming out in another bout of the old ear termites……..when will i get my treatment…….?
Ear TERmites??? OMG, this sounds like a case for professionals, not me!
hum?
If I say “hum what?’, am I going to get knocked down again?
Listen FiggyDeluded, I plussed your a$$.
I know you’re just trying to rattle my cage, but I doubt you would want to see the animal who resides in it! Stick to humans!
Thanks, Ozz - My remarks were not directed at anyone in particular, but in general terms.
oh god you just made me laugh biatch,im backing down i aint got no come back to that one!
Dab, you can say “ass” on here, I do it all the time, it’s a donkey so the filter doesn’t get it. Please don’t be upset. Some drive-by minuser must have struck at the wrong time.
biatch let me apologise, i read your comment totally wrong for some reason,i got a litlle bit confused,and i agree with ozz it was brave and alot of people wont like it SORRY!
Suddenly i feel i have sucked all the fun out of this.
I’m here for you Figgy. You can cry if you like. Just not on my shoulder. Don’t want any ear TERmites.
Dont worry about me ozz us figgy foxes dont cry, we dont have the glands! we do like to cuddle tho…
Not to worry Ozz and Figgy! I am a good natured soul, and yes not immune to controversy. That’s me, and I wouldn’t be me, I guess if I wasn’t pissing somebody off! lol
I took it all with a grain of salt, so if I came off as a biatch, I guarantee you it was not the first time, nor will it be the last that I give off that impression!
Sooooo, misunderstood!
Go back to having fun!
Awwwww……..poor Figgy-poo. You are lucky, I’m much more tender-hearted than I appear.. But wait, those earmites…..
How did you choose your name?
biatch why not join in if you come across as a biatch thats fine,i can take it …you seem like a funny lady.
Heh heh, Dab, it IS kinda fun! Not much happening elsewise. Never understood the rafts, maybe now I do! Except why you couldn’t have made it a luxury yacht, I don’t know. Actually, I’m afraid of the water, JAWS syndrome, a luxury mansion?
I can tell your softer than you appear ozz, I took the name from someone who used to mean alot to me, a passing of the torch if you like….
Well, I do have a very good sense of humour, but I am also very direct, which can be easily misinterpreted unless one knows me well enough!
I appreciate that you are having fun, we all need a little laughter, and a little of that human touch! Go for it!
Perhaps, another time, another life! Enjoy!
I just don’t know if this will work Figgy ! One night you are wanting me to bathe you and the next you are rattling Dab’s cage ! You are obviously not a one-woman fox. I might have to console myself with cuddling my little dog who is foxy-like in appearance. I’d like to hear about the passing of the torch, but fear i might waver if I do!
Why you take so long to talk ozz?
What do you mean? I say too much?
Waver? waver? how do you mean? also figgy is always, ALWAYS a one woman fox, i aint no stray! you console yourself in that baby…….
But you said you are not a fox of the catching variety….
Honestly, I think I am going to request a chat on this site. Between the two of you, you can fill an entire post!
well maybe you just need the right tranquilizers and net……..lol
And you rattled Dab’s cage……
Free entertainment…..Join us !
im feeling a little drousy…… oh……….no…………..i………appear..to ..be coming over all weak…………
So, you were not up to par, after all? Well, maybe I should let you get some rest.
Sorry, ozzig, some of us were too busy analyzing the 815 site in order to write the bi-daily blog about our lovable (yet toolish) Sam and his adventures.
To my dismay, once again I was left with nothing really to write about.
yeah maybe i should get some rest Ozz,but let it be known the fox will return and back to his best,this aint over baby not yet…..howlllllooooooooooooooo……….or whatever noise a fox makes… actulally i think a fox makes more of a squeel and figgy dont squeel………well maybe sometimes. PS you could of just slipped the net then…who knows when the oppertunity may arise again?
JW, I was into that for a while, but got frustrated. Even though I logged in and out, it wasn’t always saving my progress. Also, it seemed like too few clues each time, although from the sounds of you all, it must be picking up some.
Goodnight Figgy-poo.
Well, it is the last chapter and ends Friday I believe…. so it will overlap with LOST and they finally reached Sam’s co-ordinates today… so this week maybe a good week to jump back in, but you are right… it was a little slow.
I have been watching your progress though, gleaning your knowledge, shameful I know. Just didn’t comment because I had nothing meaningful to share, since I wasn’t hunting.
And, foxes yip, not howl.
And Figgy, I prefer to tame, not capture….
Well ozzig, there is no harm in that. I actually get about 45% of the info from DarkUFo, but all the speculation is purely mine. Speculation is what makes LOST run (but in this case, it doesn’t run… it kinda stands still) The sad thing is… we won’t know anything until the end. In essence, we are kinda wasting our time on this site. But, it passes the time.
Ozzig, I wish I would have been like you, and got out of that game. You want to know what frustration is, I have completed every single thing in that game, and because of one silly little obstacle I can’t overcome, it has only diminished the pleasure of being able to accomplish the final leg of the journey. Sorry,but if you knew me,you would know that defeat does not fit into my vocabulary. Sorry, for sounding off like this but ,It does make me feel a bit better getting it off my chest. Goodnight all.
Figgy I only mentioned the guy in frequency’s name was Jack Shephard because I thought it was a cool coincidence, since Elizabeth Mitchell was also in it.. Any way I’m all for a good rant so I hope it helped you get it out of your system.
In a couple of days we will have fresh episodes and hopefully fresh ideas ,but people are always going to look for clues to Lost in books, movies etc.
i really wish this site was still more strictly theory i dont see why it had to become a lost message board
I totally agree with you! LOST is a genuine, unique show and there is no way they are remaking anything with it!
JW, that’s a good idea about a chatboard, many posts, including this one, would be better suited there. I’ve often thought it myself. But don’t know if it’s feasible.
In general: In the meantime, there isn’t one, so when members get in the mood to waste some time and have a little harmless fun, it goes to posts such as this, where anyone has the option of participating or ignoring. Figgy did create his own post so as to keep it from intruding on others. That way, anyone who doesn’t want to read a message board doesn’t have to.
StepItUpJack: I do fail to understand why, of all the non-theory message board type posts that have been on this site forever, this one was singled out for objection.
Luv: You have no doubt made Figgy’s day.
Ozz, I don’t think it was this particular thread which was being singled out. I believe it was a general statement in response to Figgy’s post!
What goes on in a post is nobody elses business in my opinion! Carry on! And, by all means, have as much fun as possible! If someone doesn’t like it, they don’t have to read it or comment on it.
What did annoy me to no end this morning, is to see that a quality post such as AC’s pushed over to the 2nd. page because of all the crap people are posting! I need not verify, just check the zeros and + 1 and minuses.
I personally requested Jeff last year, to place a seperate section for questions, and was informed that it is not feasible. We have to rely on peoples good common sense! The regulars who have been around for some time, ask very pertinent questions, which has value in my opinion, and I have great respect for that process. However, it does promote the opportunity for abuse, as we discussed earlier in this post.
Keep smiling, Ozz!
Dab & Ozz, i dont think this problem will change, the people who join the forum the more posts there will be.. I think its important to remember to always +1 quality theories so at least there is another chance for them on the highest rated pages.Maybe we need to flag not theories when they get towards the end of the page also.
WTF, I did go back and flag some not theories, several pages, but I’m only one. It’s a hard call. Questions and observations are important too, I don’t want to minimize them, and they need a chance to be seen by all. Some postings though, like complex theories, need to be visible a little longer for any in depth discussion. People should remember that just because it has disappeared from the front page doesn’t mean it’s “old”.
WTF, I rarely ever minus a theory unless it’s Trollish or Offensive! I simply don’t bother with them. If I believe a theory has merit, I read it and plus it! I am all for encouraging people so I don’t feel compelled to say anything further on the subject!
The flagging is everyones responsibility and I think you absolutely know the kind of posts to which I am referring. My intent is not to turn this into something that it isn’t. I am exercising my right to free assembly to which I am entitled, as you or anyone else is to theirs.
Dab, Im just saying if we flag the not theory posts when they get to the end of the page (not to punish or anything) just to move them it will free up space on the main page for the serious theories. I know you always comment and plus posts positively, and all Im saying is if everyone actually voted on the theories they really liked (i think there are a lot of non voters and thats fine too) but for the really good theories to be seen they need high scores to be in the top rated pages.
My internet tone must need some work. It seems I come over as someone Im not. I was just trying to join in a convo with you two.
WTF, No problem at all with what you meant or said! We are both on the same page!
I felt it may lead some others to believe otherwise, if you know what I mean. I have already read a complaint in another post, from a relative newcomer who feels there is “an elitist” group on this site!
And, it is precisely that kind of attitude and thoughts I was personally wanting to avoid. I made a general statement which has merit, and I didn’t want anything else to be read into that statement, it’s that simple. My words were not intended to offend, and/or create bad feelings.