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We moved through space at a speed which can be compared with nothing but itself” - The Count St Germain.

— CrazyPolarBear

The Count of St Germain was an actual historical figure who played an active role in the history of many different countries. However, his actual documented life span’s nearly 200 year’s and it was said the Count himself claimed to be over a 1000 years old.

In 1740 a man described as ‘handsome, wealthly, and blasphemous’ arrived in Paris, he identified himself as the Count of St Germain and was welcomed into the aristocratic circles of Paris.

The Count kept company with writers, philosophers, scientist’s and freemasons, and those that knew him said he was a man of many talents.

He was an acomplished violinist and pianist, an artist and sculptor, and also it was claimed, an alchemist. He was also a great linguist who spoke fluent Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, French, English, Sanskrit, Mandarin, and Arabic.

Louis XV was fascinated by stories of the Count and invited him to dine with him and they became firm friends. During Louis XV’s spectacular banquets it was reported that the Count abtstained from food and wine, but did sometimes sip fresh spring water. When the Count did dine he always did so in private, it is not known precisely what he ate but some of the courtiers claimed he was a vegaterian.

Anton Mesmer the man credited with discovering the art of hypnotism is reported to have said that the Count possessed ‘a vast knowledge of the inner-workings of the human mind’ and had been directly responsible for teaching him the hypnotism.

In 1756 the Count was spotted in India by Sir Robert Clive.

In 1760 Louis XV sent the Count to the Hague to help settle a peace treaty between Austria and Prussia.

In 1762 The Count took part in the deposition of Peter III and played and active role in bringing Catherine the Great to the Throne.

In 1770 he was seen in the uniform of a Russian General with prince Alexei Orloff in Leghorn.

After the death of Louis XV in 1774 the immortal Count appeared and warned Louis XVI and Marie Antionette of the approaching danger of the French Revolution, which he described as a ‘gigantic conspiracy, that would destroy the order of thing’s’. Marie Antionette records in the final entries of her diary that she regretted not heeding the Count’s warning.

In February 1784, Prince Charles of Hesse-Cassel announced the new’s that the Count had died. His Funeral was attended by many historical celebrities including Anton Mesmer and Louis St Martin.

A year later the Count was reported to have attended a congress of Freemason’s in Paris. For decade’s after his supposed death the Count was still reported to be common figure in Parisian society circles. All who saw him reported that he still appeared to be in his mid-thirties!

In 1870 Napoleon Bonaparte was reported so intriguded by the tale’s of the count that he set up a special commission based at the Hotel DeVille to investigate him, however the Hotel was gutted by a fire in 1871 so all their finding’s were lost.

In August 1914, during World War I two Bavarian soldiers captured a man who claimed to be the Count, believing him to be a spy they interrogated him, however their prisoner did not answer their questions and mocked them all night. He was reported to have said ‘Throw down your gun’s you fool’s! The war will end in 1918 with defeat for Germany and her allies!’ One of the soldiers Andrea’s Rill, was amused by this and continued to probe him for more prophecies, and was told ‘Everyone will be a Millionaire after the war, there will be so much money people will throw it down in the street’s and no-one will bother to pick it up! You will need a wheel-barrow full of it just to buy a loaf of bread!’ Perhap’s referring to Germany’ s rampant inflation after the war. Further still he informed him ‘ After the confetti money will come the AntiChrist, a tyrant from the lower classe’s who will rise up and lead Germany to war with England once again, but he will be defeated after doing unhuman thing’s to his own people!’ The soldiers eventually let him go believing him to be mad.

After this episode there were no further documented appearances of the Count.

So who was the Count St Germain? Some who knew him claimed he had Confessed to them that he was Cartaphilus, the Man Who Mocked Christ.

The Legend of Cartaphilus, the Wandering Jew.

When English soldiers returned from the Crusades they brought with them a story of a mysterious immortal named Cartaphilus, the Wandering Jew.

It was said that in the Judgement Hall’s of Pontius Pilate, there was a Jewish door keeper who was witness to the trial of Jesus of Nazareth.

The story goes that as Jesus carried his cross to the calvary, Cartaphilus stepped out from the crowd and told Jesus to hurry up. Christ was said to stop and look Cartaphilus in the eye and tell him ‘I will go now, but thou shalt wait until I return’ Christ then continued toward’s the hill.

Over the year’s Cartaphilus saw that his friend’s were all dying of old age will he mysteriously retained his youth. He remembered Christ’s words and realised that he was doomed to walk the earth until Christ’s second coming.

How does all this fit in with Lost?

I think it is entirely possible that the writer’s may well intend for Richard Alpert to be the Count St Germain.

Well, the Cartaphilus part would certainly fit in with the religous apsect of the show.

Also I think the Counts vast wealth and knowledge would explain Mittelos Bioscience as well, how is a man living in a primitive commune on a remote island in the pacific also the director of Multi-National Biotechnology Company?

The Count was also known to take an active interest in science and meddle with political and social affair’s, it is safe to say that history might have turned out very differently without the count’s interference. And what is happening on the island would almost certainly be of interest to him.

It would also account for Richard’s apparent eternal youth.

One final thought, a manuscript penned by the Count, which is today held at a Library in Troyes, France, entitiled La Tres Sainte Trinosophie, has so far resisted all attempts to translate it however one decoded section of the text appears to read:

We moved through space at a speed which can be compared with nothing but itself. Within a fraction of a second the plains below us were out of sight and the Earth became a faint nebula”

This could signify that the Count had knowledge of faster than light travel and maybe even time travel, which is how he gained his knowledge of the Future. So there is one for the time travel theories as well!

I think I’ll go an have a lie down now.

Key characters

Short Name Full Name Episodes Theories
Richard Richard Alpert 314

Key episodes

# Title Aired Central character Theories
3.7 Not In Portland 2-7-2007 Juliet 146

Comments

  1. mrssawyer Sep 1, 2007 8:26 a.m. Comment: 1

    CPB this is excellent stuff. I love the idea of Alpert as this Count figure. This would place him as the real puppetmaster…

    Have you ever read All Men Are Mortal by Simone de Beauvoir? Its about a man who receives a gift of enternal life only to find that its actually more of a curse.

    Like the Count he is an alchemist and a prominent figure in various historical events such as the French revolution and the Diet of Worms. In fact I wonder if it was maybe based on the Count of St Germaine as there are some striking similarities. I urge you to read it brutha.

  2. CrazyPolarBear Sep 1, 2007 8:33 a.m. Comment: 2

    No, I haven’t but I will certainly look out for out it sound’s like a good read, it sound’s like it probably was based on it. Thank’s for your continued support mrssawyer!.

  3. jazprof Sep 1, 2007 9:10 a.m. Comment: 3

    very interesting CPB. I didn’t know there was an actual historical figure; I only knew of him from the Chelsea Quinn Yarbro novels. Interesting that he is also featured in Umberto Eco’s Foucault’s Penduluum which I think has narrative connections to Lost, plus the Eco=Eko possible allusion. That’s also an interesting sounding book mrss. I do think immortality as curse would be an interesting direction to explore in the show.

  4. CrazyPolarBear Sep 1, 2007 9:16 a.m. Comment: 4

    Indeed he was, I’ve also read that he has been used as a character in numerous novels and comic books.

  5. mrssawyer Sep 1, 2007 9:21 a.m. Comment: 5

    Simone de Beauvoir was the lover of Jean Paul Satre, one of the leading lights in existentialism. Read this book and you will see there is a huge gulf between simply aging slowly and living forever. Its chilling in parts.

  6. shamballa Sep 1, 2007 10:43 a.m. Comment: 6

    I just watched a very interesting documentary on time travel today. here is the link. It is near the bottom of the list.

    http://www.tv-links.co.uk/listings/9/5252

  7. Annie79 Sep 1, 2007 10:44 a.m. Comment: 7

    CPB: Great find and comparison to Richard. +1

  8. shamballa Sep 1, 2007 1:18 p.m. Comment: 8

    And another program on parallel universes.

    http://www.tv-links.co.uk/video/9/5252/7831/50654/73786

  9. pabodie Sep 1, 2007 2:12 p.m. Comment: 9

    My kind of theory! +1. Another book with the Wandering Jew as a central figure is Gustav Meyrink’s, “The Green Face.” Kind of Hermann Hesse meets Jorge Luis Borges on peyote.

    Do you ever think the writers of lost have just amassed a huge library of books and DVDs on the mysteries of the world and are trying to weave them all together into a cohesive narrative, kind of like Robert Anton Wilson did?

  10. Stip Sep 2, 2007 7:53 a.m. Comment: 10

    CPB: do you think there is a “Fountain of Youth” on the island?

    I wonder if that is what the temple guards?

  11. lockeko Sep 2, 2007 11:25 a.m. Comment: 11

    st. germaine was also the name of one of the original templars

  12. NewJersey Sep 2, 2007 12:14 p.m. Comment: 12

    richard will not be returning this season

  13. Occam Sep 3, 2007 9:46 a.m. Comment: 13

    jazprof: Curious that you mention Foucault’s Pendulum… these days I kept thinking we were like Jacopo Belbo’s “Diabolicals”… ;-)