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Welcome, Jason! You have produced a very well thought out, creative theory, which is extremely well written. Nice work! +1

I believe the Producers when they say that the mysteries of “Lost” can be found in the realms of science, pseudo-science, and parapshychology. The time variation, can be explained by “Minkowski Time”.

But, if I were going to subscribe to “time travel theories”, I’d certainly buy into this one!

Wow, great effort. I’m gonna have to come back and read all the Q&A’s, I really like it, I’m not sure I’d buy completely into it but great ideas and best explanation for the Black Rock I’ve heard yet. Excellent, +10 if I could!

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Couple of questions does your theory allow for some of them to have been through the loop before? as I think alot of evidence in the show suggests.

How does Mrs Hawking fit into it all?

Think of Mrs. Hawking as more of a “presence” than an actual person. Her role was to “help fate” keep Desmond in the same direction while he re-lives his life. Even she says that “fate has a funny way of correcting the universe” - she is the embodiment of that very statement. While I don’t think she had a conscious agenda in sending Desmond to the island, her “character/role,” per say, was solely to ensure that he get to the island so that the timeline could be preserved.

And yes, there could be people such as Desmond who have experienced this loop before, but that’s not yet relevant to the story.

A couple of light questions… If the Locke on the Island is the past Locke (proir wheelchair) why is he bald?? As the flasback Locke has the Balding hairline?? In this theory Locke’s hair would be going in reverse…

And you said the Penny Charlie contacts is Penny before meeting Desmond (1990 Penny). How did she know the name Desmond when Charlie accidently contacted her in the looking glass. It went something like “Did you say Desmond? Well where is he is he alright?”…..”He’s brilliant!”…… Good theory I’ll +1 it you almost have everything wrapped up.

wow +1 from me,i’ve read over half the theory and love it the rest i’ve flipped through cause i need to take it all in, what do you make of the white shoe hanging on that branch?and the 70year womb in a 20year old body?and any thoughts on vincent?or the glass eyes in that jar?

Hume, Check through my Q&A - I think you’ll find the answers to your questions in there. Locke doesn’t have hair on the island because the defintion of time travel that the show provides doesn’t necessarily require you to de-age. Thus, Locke is probably still in his body from 2004, but has his physical attributes/health from the past. OR, the year in which the island esists may not really be 1990, but more like 1998 (In my Q&A, I state that the 1990 year is interchangeable).

The same thing applies to Penny - If they were in 1998 (or earlier), that would’ve been right around the time that Penny met Desmond. So from her perspective, she was still interacting with the version of Desmond in the real world that had yet to even leave for his race around the world.

Well Thats one of the best theories i’ve ever read on this! +1 for sure!

Just one point that gets me though…When the 815ers have Ben imprisoned at the hatch, after the lockdown he tells John that he never pressed the button and nothing happened. Why would he do this when really he wud want Locke to continue pressing the button and keep the island in the time bubble?

it’s the best theory i’ve heard yet - quite brilliant!!!

Jason, what I like most about your theory is that your description of the way the time machine works is actually quite similar to things I’ve read about current ideas about developing actual time travel. As far as how the theory applies—I think the best part to me is theexplanation for hitting the button every 108 minutes to keep the island frozen in time, and the idea that Alex is moved to the second island to allow her to age. I don’t think I understand your idea that moving between one island and another though would mean the people would change from 30 to46 and back again (wouldn’t the others be going through this all the time?). And a lot of the suppositions like the disease being given to the hostiles and then the time machine as a cure—that doesn’t make sense to me—why would they buy that as a cure or vaccination? I like your other idea that smokie or course correction is the disease.

Overall it was very imaginative and well written and I give it +1, but a lot of the details don’t work for me.

Jason, welcome! This was quite an ambitious first theory. It was very well written and entertaining as well.

I just feel the same way Kat does about it. Although I could even buy the time travel, if I had to, but not with a time travel machine. It*s just too Marty Mc Fly to me.

You do make some excellent points, though and thats why Im also giving you a +1.

Can*t wait to read your second theory!!!

Very nicely done! Thanks for sharing your well thought out theory. You must type fast. I would have dictated that one.

i love it. a great theory! +1.

has anyone bothered to try and check the date on the paper jack is reading in TTLG? That might help or hinder your theory. Also the paper shown while Juliet is looking at her sister, i always thought that was meant to show the date, like in a photo of a kidnap victim.

that also might help you to prove your theory. then again. I’m out of the loop, i havent watched the 3rd season since it aired, as i am desperately waiting for the dvd release.

but there you have my comments on your theory…

Thank you for writing it all out… i know some people would’ve just written… THERE’S A TIME BUBBLE IN THE SWAN! Allowing everyone on this board to tear into them and never post again. (which would have been completely appropriate in that situation.) But you didnt. So thank you.

I am partial to this theory. I feel like I have heard it somewhere before…

I also am skeptical about such parts as the disease and the half dead-ghost idea.

But, due to its creativity and dedication (and more simply the lack of a theory of my own), you got your +1.

yah, i’m not reading that right now. +1 for length.

+1, Be sure to tell us your insights when season 4 begins. Interesting theory. There are alot of idiots on this site, but you have made me proud I visit this site on a daily basis. Keep up the good work jason.

Ok… I’m going to do something I never do. I pretty much follow the dictum that if I don’t have anything nice to say I won’t say anything at all. And I’m usually all for “+1 for effort”. This is, after all, an exhibition not a competition (so, please, no wagering).

But this theory just doesn’t really work. I mean… at all.

Thinking of where to begin in order to demonstrate this is overwhelming. But maybe it suffices to point out that a few of the criticisms in your Q&A are valid and not adequately addressed. The structure of your arguments seems to be something like this:

“I think they’re all zombies.”

“Um… they don’t LOOK like zombies.”

“Sure, but the writers can twist zombie lore however they like.”

“Right, but… nothing in the story really suggests zombies at all… and can you really take a stray comment by the producers about how life and death function differently on the island as proof that zombies have to be involved?”

“I see what you’re saying… but perhaps they didn’t know at the outset of the show that zombies would be involved and they kind of came up with that later. That would explain why there are no references to the undead and it would also explain why they don’t look like zombies. So see there, my theory explains two more things.”

“Um…”

Please understand, I’m not trying to be mean or critical… I’m just trying to make a point. The theory you have here isn’t really demanded by some huge unexplained mystery (like, say, if in the season finale the writers had actually told us that the events we were seeing were before the crash in 2004). And nor does the theory really explain anything… well… at all… except for the problems that it creates itself. Kind of like the last big time travel theory on this site, actually. I hope it doesn’t appear as though I’m just dismissing this out of hand, because I’m not. There just really isn’t anything to dismiss, in my observation.

If time travel is involved in lost then I don’t think they made a time machine- I think theres part of the island that has time phenomena I think thats why mr friendly wouldn’t let Jack,sawyer and locke past that ‘line’and he went on about curiousity etc in the episode ‘the hunting party’

This almost got me into the time travel crowd. ProfOzone nudged me back with his comment above, and now I’m less decided than before.

+1

I’m sorry if these were answered in your post, but I didn’t see them (checked twice):

-Would it be easier to inflict a superficial wound on a time traveler and see if that disappears than to create a disease and see if that’s cured?

-Why not more than one time machine? I know it could possibly be huge or unlike anything we imagine, but this seems intuitively the next step to take so that they could do more than one subject at once.

-Placing a time machine on/near a magnetic anomaly seems careless: although nonmetals (non-metallic minerals, Mr. Gale?) could be used to create the machine, or it wouldn’t even be a solid, wouldn’t this still somehow harm the equipment? Maybe technology similar to the sonic fence is used, maybe Smokie is nonmetallic.

Great job.

Jason,

I think you could be on to something. I’ve been thinking about this theory and applying it to all the characters and one thing just doesn’t really add up. Claire. It would mean that Claire would have had to be pregnant in both 1990 and 2004. It’s possible that the flashbacks on Claire giving the baby up for adoption is actually her “first” pregnancy and they simply haven’t showed us her second one yet. But I don’t know. I feel like if everyone takes on their physical shape from the past, then Claire wouldn’t be pregnant.

What do you think?

ProfOzone - it sounds like you’re more criticizing my method of presenting the theory, as opposed to the actual content. The theory is logical, given the facts that we’ve been presented from the producers, and it ties up at least 90% of what we’ve seen on the show. True, the producers NEVER suggested that “zombies” were part of the show (I believe I said ‘half dead’ - implying that people were stuck in a state/time where they were both alive and dead. That provides much more insight than just suggesting people are “zombies”).

Ask yourself this: why would the producers give us any clue that could potentially allow someone to tie up all the lose ends in the show? That would just be a bad move on their part, because then someone on this board or another would be able to immediately “solve” the show. I can guarantee the producers wouldn’t want that.

Interesting read but I’m leaning ProfOzone’s way.

This is kind of an interesting read. It is a time line of events and even includes some Lost Experience dates.

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Pre-crash_timeline

Well, I was just using “zombies” as a generic example, not really tying it to your “half-dead” in the theory.

You say, “The theory is logical, given the facts that we’ve been presented from the producers, and it ties up at least 90% of what we’ve seen on the show.” But, with respect, I don’t see this at all. I can’t spot the logic, I don’t see what “facts” it genuinely and solidly ties into, and I can’t see at all what percentage of the show it ties up, much less anything approaching 90%. Perhaps I’m just being dense, but… I don’t see how your claim is true. And that IS addressing the content, not the method.

Why should we think time travel is involved in the show at all? What specific things do we expect time travel will explain? (The notion that a person traveling back to a time before he had a disease will no longer have that disease actually doesn’t make sense. The person’s old self will not have the disease yet, but the time-traveling self will still have it. Unless you’re talking about a different kind of time travel that I’m not familiar with.) What things will time travel explain indirectly? Why are the rules of the “time machine” the way they are? Furthermore, since so many of the objections you post to your own theory weren’t adequately answered, then those very good objections still stand, in particular the one about the resetting of the island every 108 minutes.

Again, I’m not trying to be difficult here. I just don’t see how the claims you make about the theory are true.

I’m partial to time theories…..+1 for an excellent effort!! Some of it works for me, some doesn’t. Since I’m not a scientist I’m going to re read this a few times to let it all sink in before i comment further. However, initially I think this thoery is very impressive.

ProfOzone - You’re right in that I don’t have a lot of solid evidence to support almost ALL of the claims that I made in my theory. And, in the beginning of the theory, I even state that I don’t think that many of the “pieces” of my theory will be remotely accurate. I do, however, subscribe to the “time loop” concept, and think that it is the most logical solution to the show.

A prevalent point I try to make throughout the theory is that the producers are going to do everything in their power to try to sway us from deriving solid evidence of a time loop. Ok, so yes that sounds cheap - but, in all reality, the producers have given us nothing to truly solve the show. They give us “cool little things” like hieroglyphics, numbers and orientation films to help stimulate discussion and debate, but in the end, we have nothing to solidly answer what the smoke monster is, why people see ghosts, and why everyone on the plane is connected to such a degree.

All my theory is designed to do is provide a creative way to tie up the major events on the show, loosely based on some of the events that we’ve seen. Also note that at the end of my theory, I attempt to explain to the audience the pieces of evidence that brought me to create the whole understanding of the time concept.

Right, Jason… I just fail to see how your theory actually addresses (at all or in any compelling way) “what the smoke monster is, why people see ghosts, and why everyone on the plane is connected to such a degree”, and your presentation of evidence in the end is less about pointing to unambiguous references in the show (which is what I would call evidence) and more about applying your personal interpretation to certain events and asserting that your interpretation is the most logical one without explaining why anyone else should think that’s so. (Granted… maybe I’m just slow or something, but I just don’t see how Jack being in the past during the “flash forward” is the only logical explanation… I still don’t really follow where such an explanation even comes from in the first place.)

So, for me, in the end, the theory doesn’t provide a way to tie up any events in the show, much less whatever we might call the “major” ones. This is just my opinion.

ProfOzone - Let me see if I can break off a piece of our debate. Hopefully then I can better explain my thought process. So, let’s focus on that first piece of evidence that you brought up in your last comment, the one regarding my take on the “flashforwards” actually being alternate flashbacks.

When I watch Lost, I try to look for “deterrent, wannabe subtle clues” like the Razr. Then, I look for the truly subtle clules: like when Jack and Desmond made their first encounter, in the season 2 premiere. Desmond asks Jack how he got to this island, to which Jack replies “about 90 days ago.” Then, for a second, you see Desmond roll his eyes up, as if he’s doing math in his head. That’s an example of the latter type of clue that I just described - something that would’ve ultimately allowed us to make the assumption that Desmond brought down the plane. That’s something that I’m pretty sure most viewers ignored at the time, but was clearly something that could’ve been used to build a good theory on why the plane went down.

So how do these types of clues apply to the Flashforward? Well, I take the “deterrent clues” like the razr, and the conspiracy about Jack’s dad being alive, and the blatant facts like Jack seemed to still be divorced from Sarah.. and simply ignore them. There’s so much contradictory stuff present that I turn a blind eye to those things (until there’s a good reason through future evidence to revisit), and simply go looking at the raw facts. Like, why would Jack be getting on planes just to see if he would crash on an island? That’s simply not a productive way to get to the island, assuming you truly want to get there. Plus, being that Jack is a Doctor, and apparently has time to travel on planes across country on a weekly basis, he should have the resources to fund some type of search party. Can we agree that that would be more effective than him just flying random planes? Thus, there has to be some explanation for why Jack is taking his approach. And, honestly, the only reason I can think that he would do that would be because he knows that getting on the plane will possibly land him on the island? And, that’s how I justify the alternate flash-back theory.

So basically, I think you and I both have the right understand of how someone should formulate a theory. We just choose different bases on which to draw our theories. I try to take a few small concepts and string them together into one big picture (granted, not all the pieces may fit together). Where others may use all of the facts that we’ve been presented to create a theory.

Whoa, Jason! I want to point out to you, that although people have given you credit for your work and efforts, which were placed into producing this theory, not many of us actually subscribe, to actual Time Travel Theories! So, I think you should gracefully accept the acknowledgments which people have given you and also accept the positive criticism which you have received!

If you were to go episode by episode over the last three seasons, you would have great difficulty, pointing to the actual events which occur in every episode, and attempt to produce insinuation, direct or indirect, or evidence of ANY time travel, involved! And, those ARE the facts!

Personally, I believe the writers, when they have said, over and over again that Actual Time Travel IS NOT involved! Call me crazy! Just like they have said, that the “Losties” are NOT in Purgatory!

Posting Theories on this website, does involve lively debate and discussion about the issues, and most people are open minded to receiving, and learning about the MANY aspects of the show! Giving ones opinion is only a small part of what this website is about!

If, you to choose to hold steadfast to your beliefs, and argue them out, to the death, then you will likely miss out on the best experience you might possibly have here.

Granted, Jason. But the final episode also indicates that Jack has no idea where the island actually is. It seems to me that given that fact alone (forgetting his obviously fragile mental state) that hopping on a plane that follows the same route and hoping it’ll crash is an obvious desperate measure one might take to reach the island. That said, I’m not sure we’re supposed to think that Jack thinks he was taking planes as a reasonable way of reaching the island. He’s obsessed. Depressed. And maybe a little off his rocker. There’s no compelling reason, as far as I can tell, to add propositions to our observations (cue Occam) and suppose that he’s back in 2004, especially when THAT move only makes more things to explain, like the golden pass and the contemporary cell phone. These two things require no explanation if we take the flash forward at face value. But suddenly they become mysteries in your theory and for me that ought to be a red flag against its plausibility.

And here we’re only talking about one element of your theory. Really it has these same problems down to its root. The problem is, like the other big time travel theory that made the rounds on this site, time travel is assumed and other points are made to conform to it. It’s never observed in the show (Desmond doesn’t properly time travel because there’s never in danger of him encountering his past self) or even suggested as far as I’ve ever been able to tell. And all the things that people claim point to it as an explanation only do so if one accepts time travel as a fact of the show first. So the evidence isn’t supporting time travel… time travel is being used as a way to force events into a particular backdrop. The mere fact that we can assume time travel and make facts fit doesn’t add credence to the time travel idea. We can assume dozens of things… clones, purgatory, virtual reality, ALIENS (one actually suggested BY Sawyer and TO Sawyer in the show!)… and force the facts to fit but that doesn’t make any of THEM more plausible either.

So for me it serves little purpose to pull explanations out of the air and see if we can make them fit. But, as you point out, that’s just how I do things. In the meantime, if I think a theory is just based on (in my view) an implausible guess that isn’t really supported by anything (it’s just “explained” by jerry-rigging “facts”) then I’m going to tend not to buy it.

Great Theory. Despite what the jealous ProfOzone would say, it attempts to use a common subject(time-travel) to loosely and or accurately explain Lost happenings. That is what this site is for, and that is what you have done. +1

By the way, I had already posted (a much shorter) theory on how Desmond’s quick trip to the past altered Charlie’s future here: http://www.lost-theories.com/theories/2007/oct/03/embrace-time-travel-if-only-10/

I have only written two theories and they both embraced time-travel.

Time travel has been explicitly debunked. You don’t provide evidence to support your theory. The theory itself, and its “Q&A” section, are full of contradictions.

Besides, Occam’s Razor says it’s too complicated to be a good explanation.

So, -1 dude. It is a good deal of work, agreed, but a shorter but more consistent post would have done the deal.

Oh, and JacoblovesyoU, please watch your language. Calling names was unnecesary. I think Prof was trying to be far more polite than I was. Or than you were, at that.

Prof…Im so glad you put forward your opinion on this theory.I know you are never negative and enjoy discussing all types of theories,as jacoblovesU should also know.Some of the ideas in this theory are quite creative and clever but the holes are gaping.

JasonSuave..I think there are certain clues such as the Razr and the newspaper with the 2004 date that Juliette reads on the screen,when she sees her sister,that are quite simply…clues.And I disagree with your comment that the writers would debunk alternate futures and replace it with alternate pasts….isnt that the same thing depending where you are standing in time?

Really well written and great ideas Jason,even if I dont agree with most of it….I could only dream of writing such a theory.

+1. Great and interesting read. I was into the time traveling theories not so long ago but have decided there is no time traveling going on and i also believe the producers/creators have ruled that out. It’s a very good theory but I will not succumb back to time traveling theories. There are some interesting points I am fond of, especially the point that Dave is real and Hurley knows him. I read some theories in and off from this site that suggest Dave is actually Libby’s husband. I remember in season 2 finale when Libby was talking with Desmond in a flashback scene, she mentioned her husband, David, gave her a boat. Not sure if this is speculation or has been debunked about Dave being Libby’s husband. Anywhose this was an enjoyable read for a boring Tuesday night with nothing on T.V. Great work Jason, though I recently have ruled out time travel, this was fun.

This theory was so off-base that I was compelled to sign in for the first time in a while and vote -1. Time-travel has been debunked. I repeat…debunked. Do you think the producers and writers are lying? Also, do you think they would provide us with enough information for us to figure it out in advance? It’s not like the answer is staring us in the face…..behind every plot turn past mysteries become insignificant. We spend our times worrying about what’s in the hatch only to learn that it’s the tip of the iceberg. Then we try to figure out what Dharma is, only to learn that Dharma ISN’T. They lead us on wild goose chases and get us to obsess over tiny details. Just because Desmond has visions doesn’t mean the show can be explained by time travel….most importantly because they’re not going to give us the information we need to come to a conclusion at this point. LOST is filled with every single fringe human mystery and event and philosophy and religion and science, it’s nothing more than a cross-section of civilization. Everybody keeps jumping up and down because time-travel gets mentioned or Buddhism gets mentioned or there’s a literary reference or Sawyer hums a song. I can understand trying to figure out the next plot twist or the meaning of a recent episode…..but at this point it seems pretty foolish to make these broad comprehensive claims, especially based on as much conjecture as this theory is based on. Almost every single Q & A on this page that I randomly flip to is absurd. Walt time-traveled to before he was born and became a non-entity that was invincible??? Say what? Naomi ‘mustve’ come from a future where everyone is dead??? Why is that a must? How about she’s lying?? Jack’s dad is either time traveling or a ghost?? What if he’s just ‘not dead’? The daylight and darkness on the island are coming from an alternate time and place?? What if it’s just ‘the present’? Polar bears were sent back in time? How come the cave map and everything we know about the experiments on the island don’t completely revolve around time travel? Why would they be conducting behavioral experiments? It just doesn’t add up, again, and I can’t stress this enough……we’ve been told that it’s NOT time travel.

To Risebysin, and everyone who is immediately discarding this theory on account of the producers debunking time travel - I ask you, where did you hear this from the producers?

Recall the pre-premiere episode for the second half of season three. Cuse and Lindelof are both being interviewed and they made a very quick comment, only a fragment of a sentence, saying “… or in another time.” To me, that very much means that time travel is a possibility.

Now, maybe since that pre-premiere episode, the producers have said something to outright debunk time travel. However, before the flames escalate further, someone please tell me where the producers said that time travel has absolutely 100% nothing to do with the show. If this is the case, I will debunk my own theory, and give myself a -1 for wasting everyone’s time.

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/handheld/30246.html

‘there are no spaceships, there isn’t any time travel’

It appears that the line was said back during season 1. Thus since, Cuse and Lindelof have dropped the hint about time travel in the pre-season 3 premiere - check it out if you don’t believe me. Since that was more recent, I can only assume that something has changed since the statement from the first season.

Furthermore, if you go over to lostpedia, people make compelling arguments as to how the show could very much still contain alternative times, despite the very old comment from season 1. Until I hear of a debunking comment more recent than the pre-season 3 premiere, I’m not entirely discounting the time travel concept. There’s just too much conflicting information.

Anyway, thanks to everyone who commented - and equally for all the feedback, whether positive or negative. This will all help very much for when I write my future theories on the show!

Well, now I am convinced! Your just being thick dude! Way to make a lot of new friends on the site!

Yeah, I see that’s working for you!

Rise: Thrilled to see you back! However, not under these circumstances! I and others have missed your presence!

If “alcatraz” isn’t in the time bubble, how can Ben and Sawyer see the Losties island from the hill??

namejunepaik - We’ve only seen the alcatraz island after the button wasn’t pressed. At that point (start of season 3), both the island and all of its surroundings exist in the past on the same timeline.

If, however, people were on alcatraz at the same time that the main island was in a time loop, then you wouldn’t be able to see people on the main island.

“Jealous ProfOzone”???

Jacob,

What I read was a good debate on the theory that was done in a very civil fashion.

You were either joking, used the wrong word, or missed the whole “mood” of the exchange.

It’s true. Jason is more suave than I am and I can’t stand it.

Dang you Jason and your smooth ways! ;-)

From the Dark UFO Spoiler Section:

This is an excerpt from a summary of a recent Lost PodCast:

“The flashforward at the end of season 3 is actually the future, it doesn’t change.”

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-lost-podcast.html

There is a link to the audio there. You can listen to it and make up your own minds, but to me it implies that what we see (FB’s and now FF’s) is what and when we get and won’t be altered.

I’m not opposed to the idea that time may run differently on the island, but think that what we see in flashforwards and flashbacks follows a specific time line.

I wouldn’t expect a concrete explanation by the producers on this topic because it is just too complicated, but I do think they will expand on it some more.

Good ideas and debate all.

As the envious ProFozone would say…

“Heh”

;)

Crap! I botched your name. I should just stick with Prof.

also one more thing. why is Claire still pregant when they crash on the island. If Walt is “invincible” wouldn’t Claire not be pregnant when they crashed on the island?

Wow, I have never read so many “veteran” LT people ticked off. So a guy off the street posts a theory that make ProfOzone, jazprof, katric and dab seem a bit foolish. Before Lost became a series I always thought that the concept of time travel was simply childish. But you Jason brought up a theory that is based on “actual physics” not some have half baked German’s idea.

You clearly state, Jason, that your theory has some holes in it. But I think you are right on the mark when you say that the producers have done this on purpose. I can see how your theory coincides with my theory about Nazi’s being on the Island before Dharma (although I don’t believe time travel is involved). I really feel sick that the overall score is only 14 with over 30 people voting. The people that have given you a negative mark are part of a “click” because they have been on this site the longest (please see the above names). When season 4 begins lets show these people who the real brains of LT are.

For the record… if I came off as “ticked” that wasn’t intended. I’m not now nor was I ever “ticked”. I was just expressing my opinion.

And, bill, I have to say I think you give me way too much credit and the folks who have voted against the theory not nearly enough. I seriously doubt there’s a conspiracy afoot and even if there was I’m certain that I wouldn’t carry enough influence to set it in motion.

No need to draw lines in the sand… this is just a disagreement among friends. I’m not Mr. Friendly in my fake beard saying, “This isn’t your website, this is OUR website. And the only reason your postin’ on it… is because we LET you post on it.” :-)

Maybe I should be more like John and talk about the trolls…

“They’re the ones that have maligned us. Insulted us. Panned us…. We’re not the only ones posting on this website and we ALL know it!”

Or maybe Jack’s approach will work better…

“We need to comment on these posts together… or we’re gonna comment alone…”

Anyway… please pick the one you like and let’s all get along. :-)

Jason, I apologize—I misread a comment above—so my comment was actually about what Jacob said, sorry.

And Bill, sorry to you too, because your response was partially based on my misreading—eeesh, tiredness+general trollishness on site=bad commenting on my part, sorry.

Well this is an even more general apology—I just made things worse here by losing my temper and not reading clearly. So apologies to Jason and Bill again and to everyone.

jaz: You killed the bride’s father!

But seriously… you’re cool by me. :-)

oh…um…sorry…sorry…beg pardon…ahem…most unfortunate…

I’m still getting the huge tracts of land though, right?

Bill: Now, why did you decide to include me in your assessment here? I voted first, and voted positively and expressed positive commentating. The advice expressed to Jason was to be more open to “The Debate”. I was NOT included in the debate which did include other folks!

I would appreciate it if you would be certain of your facts, before accusing me. I simply don’t appreciate it and quite frankly, deserve better!

You are fairly vigilant and free when expressing your thoughts and opinions, and that is your right. It is also the right of anyone else to do the same! And, when they do, all we can hope for that it is done with respect and consideration.

With all due respect, I know you know better!

I’m thinking billbo didn’t read all the comments thoroughly either. I guess it just didn’t add up.

Perhaps, he didn’t, ShamalamaUdon’tsendmeflowersanymore!

offers a flower to dabs Jin style :)?

Gotta Luv you for that, then!

A song to get you in a good mood and get your shamamlamashimmy on!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq5DNLyzwfU

Hey, Korn did it right.

I thought they did! I really like that version. Glad you did, too!

First things first I really enjoy everyone on this site, except for the trolls. Next I like a friendly competition, meaning, JasonS is new to the site, and I am also new to the site as well, compared to people, such as, Jaz,Dab,Shamdumb and others. I just glad someone new came and hit a “homerun”.

I really have deep respect for you Jaz, I have read all of your theories and consider you a very intelligent woman. I also enjoy reading theories from you as well dab, Ozone, 79, misssawyer and other long time members of this site.

Except from Sham, listen sham, quit calling me Billbo or whatever, my name is Bill; it has been Bill for my entire life. Another thing, please add important eps to your new comers site.

Bill, Peace Out! You are a good man!

OH MAN!! I’m all for reading things that make me think…but my head hurts now after reading all of this (meaning the theory AND the comments) Goodness Gracious…. :)

I guess I’ll start with the first question I had while reading the theory. So this is addressed to Jason. I am not sure if I understand you correctly regarding the time issues on the island….especially in regards to aging. I got the impression that you were saying that if someone is on the island, they will not age. Is that what you were saying? If so, then what about baby Aaron? How do you explain him aging?

Jason…you say Charlie communicated with the 1991 version of Penny, and that she wasnt even looking for Desmond.But she asks Charlie if Desmond is there and is he alright?

You might have an explanation for this in your Q&A but i couldnt find it.

PaintGirl and wtfsignmeup - I’m currently doing some tailoring to my theory in light of some of this debate. Namely, I’m going to drop the 1990 year and replace it with 1996, because I think that helps clean up several of the issues regarding Penny and the Flashforwards.

Also, I will put in a more descriptive section on the time machine’s effects on a persons’ body. In other words, I will attempt to explain the “rules of fate” as depicted on the show. Like, why you wouldn’t de-age (lose your hair), but your womb would continue to grow.

Look for an edit to this theory early next week, and hopefully I will answer any outstanding questions that were brought up in the comments. That’s again to everyone for taking so much interest in this theory!!

Jason, I really like your theory. I would like to translate it into Polish. All I need is your permission. I can’t find your e-mail address, so I am posting the inquiry here.

Regards,

Piotr Zalewski, Warsaw, Poland

It was a good theory but unfortunatly it doesnt work because locke got his kdney taken out prior to 1996 but on the island it is still missing