Its (not) a family affair
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By mrssawyer
- Its (not) a family affair
- Created: Oct 11, 2007
- Last updated: Aug 14, 2008
- After episode: 2.15: Maternity Leave
- Status: Current
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Well this is really less of a theory and more of an observation and some musings about said observation.
Last night I was engaged in a bit of morbid thinking about flying and I was wondering how I would cope if I got marooned Lost style and was wondering who would look after my boy if it did happen. I realised that with the exception of Claire, Mike and Sawyer, none of the Losties has any children.
Claire is ‘special’ because she was pregnant when she flew (although that in itself is a bit strange because most airlines would not accept such a heavily pregnant passenger after 28 weeks, let alone at around 35/36 weeks as Claire must have been, and especially not on a long haul flight…) and therefore had her child with her.
Sawyer has never met his child and so one can’t really say he has her to ‘go back to’ as such. Mike also has Walt with him.
Not one of the other Losties has children waiting for them at home. Not even any of the older Losties such as Rose and Bernard. I am interested as to why this might be. I mean you would think that one at least of the survivors would be worrying about getting back to their families but I don’t think a single person has mentioned this aspect.
Soooooo I was wondering if there is a bigger connection to babies, children and families that we haven’t seen yet. We know that the Others abducted some children to ‘keep them safe’ and ‘give them a better life’ but I don’t think their parents were on the flight with them. So that’s kind of interesting. Maybe those who were taken by the Others were more worthy because of their family ties? Or are the Others actually returning these people to their pre-crash lives…
I realise that this is very much a shot in the dark but I thought it might inspire some interesting debate. Thank you for reading!
You make a very valid point, Mrs! Good observation, about the children. I had thought perhaps, the surviving children’s parents had been killed in the crash. However, that has never been clarified. You definitely could be onto something with those thoughts. Hmmm, it is very strange that none of our losties have ever made any mention about them, either! Yep, something is most odd about that. +1
Ooh and for once I get a silent +1 as well!
That is an interesting observation mrs.
We know that the main Losties have love interests and family that are off island and alive (Penny, Chaalie’s bro, etc…) but not children that we (or they) are aware of with the exception of Sawyer but that could have been a con.
Your musings immediately made me think of something Ethan said to Claire in “Maternity Leave”… “We are good people, Claire. Good family.”
Yeah that’s it Shambunny. That line stands out for me too.
@ Dab I definitely don’t think the children’s parents have been discussed. When Ana was giving cpr to the little girl the boy doesn’t mention it, at least I don’t think so….
Good call Mrs.S. Lots of people with parent issues who aren’t parents themselves.
Yes… very interesting… the kids weren’t flying with their parents… very interesting indeed… hmm…
YAE I hadn’t even thought of it that way! Maybe its as simple as that. Because they have difficult parental relationships they don’t have kids of their own…
I can almost picture Prof smoking a pipe while he muses and mulls over this theory. :)
Yes Prof. There were children flying without parents but not parents flying without children! As a parent I think its quite odd to imagine two young children flying from Sydney to LA on their own but I can imagine a parent flying without their child.
@ thank you for the use of your Hmm the other day ;-)
Elementary dear Sham!
Delicious ;)
It would be interesting to see if Rose gets pregnant even after chemo (which makes one sterile). I’m mean hey, everyone else is on the show.
Maybe Sawyer has some viagra he can trade to Bernard. chuckle
That was bad I know…
bad sham!
Sham. Just…. don’t. That’s icky.
Shambalamba Man! Me thinks somehow, that our boy Sawyer probably doesn’t need any help in that department! But, he could have a stash of it!
However, I would hate to see Ben get his hands on any of that stuff! Now there is a visual, I need to get out of my head, reaalllyy, reaallyy fast!
See ya!
“I know, I know…”
“Say it”
“I’m dentist, not a lover”
Dab there are times when you shouldn’t share and that was one of those times. If you are wondering where the nasty visual went, I’ve got it!
Ben: “We need to steal the women and get them here…”
Richard: “Why?”
Ben: “I have to do something with this… It’s been over four hours!”
Sorry there, Mrs! I can’t believe I even had that thought, so I am going to blame it all on Shamballa!
Now, if that were Sawyer after 4 hours, count me and The Mrs., right in! And give him a few more tabs!
Now, we’re talking bunnies!
Better give Sawyer a few more tabs, Miss KatNip will want to join in!
I just can hear Sawyer now…
“Let’s give’m their ride” :)
I just can hear Sawyer now…
“Let’s give’m their ride” :)
I just got bilocated…
I wish someone would bi-locate Sawyer. One each for me and Dab. Or should that be tri-locate Kat? Lol. Okay that’s enough now. This isn’t one of those cheap threads you can just come in and sully with your dirty mouths.
I think the Mrs., is still recovering from that remark I made about Ben! So, thank goodness, you changed the subject, ShamDitty! It will put the smile back on her face. I know I am wearing one!
With all due respect Mrs., you are the one with the dirty mouth! I mean Bi and Tri! Shall, I get a bar of soap, Mrs. PottyMouth?
OK, I’ll take the blame for this threads rapid plunge into debauchery.
Better make it a large one Dab.
I thought Ivory soap tasted best in my youth.
sham knocks kattarget off her soap box flying ninja style before she knows what hit her
Mrs! I only ever do things, Large!
KatDebaucle! Brad Pitt? Yeah, I’ll order one large of that, too!
Shambalamba Man! Can we get an order of you, too? Make it large, please!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgx1sSfriIA
Six foot two with eyes of blue dabs. Only the best for you. ;)
You got that right, my man! LOL!
When you got the best, who needs the rest!
sham places a swift kick to kat’s midsection
ShamOzone?
You’ve been working too hard lately kat. You must be delirious.
chuckles
You are AOK in my book katsane. :)
I have bought up the subject about claire being pregnant in one of my theories and I am convinced that tom is not the father,she said she took precautions and also the fact that tom made a quick exit out of the relationship, I think tom was compromised or bribed .
Another immaculate conception? Hmmm! I wonder!
Dus, it still blows me away how much Claire’s boyfriend looks like a young Ben…to me anyway.
p.s. You girls can have sawyer…..I’ll take a heapin helpin of Brad pitt and viagra…..mmmmm, or Jack.
+1
nickee I have thought that too! I wouldn’t be suprised if tom is ben,just because the name is different means nothing - the person in the coffin is someone we know already and yet the name is ???lantham .
Great points dusmehedin.
Didn’t Tom paint the picture in Widmore’s office?
it’s all a dream kat
Yes thats right sham
Dus~We are on the same wavelength about tom/Ben…..The similairity is just coincedence? I don’t think so. why would they cast someone that looks so much like a younger ben linus, bug eyes and all? They could pick anyone for that part, but they chose him…..now, i didn’t think that Tom was/is Ben, My first thought was “OMG that’s Ben’s son!!!”
But then nothing ever came of it and I never brought it up here.
Hah! Dharma Iniative supplies of Viagra! I thought the island was its own source of viagra—after all it got Locke standing up.
4 hour + performance AND increased sperm count? Is this what “All the Best Cowboys have Daddy Issues” really means?
katluded—steal the TMs?! I liberated ‘em honey—Looks like we’re gonna need lots of ‘Mmmmmmms” on this thread. As for the “Ts”—you know, in case you find somone wandering dazed, nude, and confused in the jungle. Then again, maybe we should hide the Ts. Dump em in the ocean. No bilocation without representation!
love,
jazziberator
Gotta keep those Dharma dudes up and working.
You should run for office jazz.
Jazzie: Cowboys you say! Take this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doF19W6Dp8k
No no Sham, my calling is to work from the shadows returning the power to the hands of the people!
Besides, there are some, ahem, things from my past which, you know, might surface at some inopportune moment in the political arena….
jaz readjusts her mask and disappears into the darkness
All the best cowboys have chinese eyes…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThO3pvQM1Co
sham, I love that song.
For miss dabbiedo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GonJsKMyIdA
Hmmm jaz. If Hillary can do it you can. Don’t let those skeletons in the cave… er closet keep you from your calling.
I’d vote for ya I think. ;)
Shamalama: Who couldn’t like “Rough Boy”?
Jazzamatazz! I’ve never heard that song before! Awesome song and the video is outstanding!
:)
Dabster, I’m looking for a version of “All I Ever Wanted” by Santana online.
Couldn’t find a studio version but this will rock your socks off.
This kid is awesome!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R5L_XDODeIA
Now that we have officially highjacked mrs thread… (sorry!)
Some more Pete…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lg8EhCphE5w
You are sooo very right about that, my Shammie! He does Carlos, proud!
Here is a blast from the past!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_b3LMoQUJ0
I love that song, and I haven’t heard it for awhile, but Rough Boy, is still one of my favs!
And, perhaps the Mrs., shouldn’t have entitled her theory, as such! It was an open invitation! LOL
The guy speaks through his guitar. Amazing.
Sham- Remember Juliet’s sister got pregnant after chemo. So maybe Juliet can work her magic on Rose. LOL
Just proves again, Mrs, you’re not just another pretty face!!! What a great observation. +1
As far as I can remember, nothing has been said about the children who were taken. We don’t know if their parents died in the crash. It seems odd there were that many of them flying alone.
And as for our Losties, you’re right no children waiting at home for them. As though they were handpicked….
Me thinks you’ve created another mystery :-)
+1 I gave a positive, but I think the real reason for no kids is simple. No kids=simpler plot lines. Nice “out of the box”, “piece of pie” thinking though.
That’s right temple. :)
wc
Sham/Temple, are you saying that even if Rose has went through the change of life, she should be able to conceive on the island? :)
nickee- ‘Bens son’ thats even better well done.
as for rose she supose to have a daughter so perhaps that story is yet to come
Please excuse the interruption of “L-T Ladies Gone Wild”. I think all of you got an early jump on Casual Friday - but hey, whatever floats your raft….
Mrs. I like your observation quite a bit. I had been thinking about something similar, but from a slightly different angle. I’m having a hard time finding the references to the episode, but I seem to remember that Kate thought she was pregnant at one point. I think it was when she married that guy and then drugged him in order to leave. (Anyone know which episode that was?)
Anyway my observation was that in addition to the Daddy issues that have been emphasized on the show, so too have pregnancy woes; Kate had a false reading of being pregnant, Ana Lucia lost a baby when she was shot, Sun was told that she couldn’t conceive and Claire became pregnant even though she used some sort of birth control. In light of Mrs. observation about the lack of children among the survivors what exactly does all of this mean?
+1 Mrs.
We now return you ladies to your original slutty discussion! Carry on ~~ please!!! ;)
Jukin! Was it necessary, to include that last paragraph?
While, you are entitled to your opinion and obvious, expert and expansive knowledge, on what IS, and ISN’T slutty, how DARE you pass those judgments on to other people? People you don’t even know!
As, one of those LADIES, I don’t answer to you or any other man, for my behaviour! The power, I answer to, is far greater than you! So, you know what you can do with that nice little opinion of yours, now don’t you!!
I guess God was busy today, so he sent you to do his job, right!
Because I am sure, you are just perfect! At least, most sanctimonious aholes, think they are!
I think Jukin was just having a bit of fun dabs. You have to admit (and I am guilty of this) that we tend to get a little risqué from time to time. ;)
In fact, you should have included me in that jib Jukin. I feel slightly slighted now.
Sorry, I am a peace maker. Comes from being a middle child I suppose.
Namaste!
Eeeek what happened here? My poor, poor theory ;-)
Nickee, Rose does seem past her prime, but didn’t some Russian woman in her 50’s have a child recently?
Not that I really think it’s going to happen on the show, but if cancer (Rose) and nerve damage (Locke) can be eliminated and even reversed then why not?
It’s alive and well just like you mrs. :)
I apologize, if I jumped the gun on this one! I, for one, am sensitive lately to all of the negativity I have seen on this site.
Live and Let Live!
Simple!
This woman was 59 and had a natural pregnancy!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/20/nbirth120.xml
Heaven help us if this happens to Rose!
That is a really cool article mrs. Imagine the the wisdom an older couple like that could impart. Who needs grand kids when you can have your own?
If Brad Pitt/Jack and viagra are presented before me, I’m sure as hell not saying no! If that makes me slutty~I’ll own it.
Nice find Mrs.!
oooooh, to have to chase a toddler at an older age, I shudder at the thought. It was hard enough for me and I had mine young!
We “TM” it around here Nickee. ;)
I’ll Own it, TM it, and have a damn good time doing both:)
Nickee: You rock, my sistah!
Oh no… Another feisty one.
:)lol, only feisty when it comes to mmmmm jaaaack.
Or Brad.
But Nickee doesn’t the whole Brangelina thing put you off?
@ I’m with you on the kid front. No way would I want to be running around after a toddler at that age. I still think its amazing to think she got pg naturally though.
@ I also like to own slutty. Jukes its all good here.
lol, it puts me off because i wish it was “Brickee” :)
They’re just SO over exposed…
dabiatchishere I apologize if I offended you - it was intended as a joke and I guess I wasn’t very clear about that in the post. I was actually very impressed with the entire thread and didn’t mean in any way to bring it down. Apologies to anyone I may have offended.
Jukin: No worries, dude!
I didn’t know how to take the remark, so I am glad you cleared it up for me. Perhaps, it was just me, but it didn’t read as a joke, but I take you at your word! And, also The Shambalamba man, who you likely knows you better, than I, pointed it out as well.
Thanks, for your apology!
It is generously accepted!
You guys are cool.
~~~Big wave from me across the ocean~~~
The Dabbie waves back at “The Lovely Mrs”. And sends hugs and kisses as well!
moons the mrs
Hopefully Mr. French will show up and put everything in order.
Rose = pregnant, thats when the willing suspension of disbelief runs out for this viewer.
lockeko wrote, “Rose = pregnant, thats when the willing suspension of disbelief runs out for this viewer.”
I guess I have to disagree with you. If Bernard = pregnant, thats when the willing suspension of disbelief runs out for THIS viewer!
Jukin you win. That really is horrible.
Jukin: when I comment on the scientific impossibility of some people’s theories, I keep getting told that I have a closed mind. So, sure, Bernard could get pregnant. Why not?
For the record, none of the main Lost folks have kids, but when Sawyer is reading messages from the bottle, he says he had “no idea tracy was so anxious to get back to her husband and kids, shes been sleeping next to steve to keep her warm”