Stephen King and Desmond clothes
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By JamCat76
- Stephen King and Desmond clothes
- Created: Nov 25, 2007
- Last updated: Aug 14, 2008
- After episode: 3.3: Further Instructions
- Status: Current
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Before i start, let me give a big spoiler alert, for anyone who has not read a lot of Stephen Kings work. Like the writers at Lost i too, appreiciate Kings wonderful literature, character development and attention to detail. So would not wish to mar anyone’s experience, by spreading foot in mouth disease. Ok, to business…
I’ve been reading other theories tonight with regards to timelines, alternate universes, and parallel planes. Due to the writers expressing their love of Stephen King’s books, in “The Lost Book Club” on the extras disc with Season 3’s dvd, a lot of you have referenced “The Dark Tower” series, as a possible influence on Lost’s storyline. Not that it’s not easy to see parallels, between the stories, but i’d like to suggest some alternative titles from King’s vast back catologue of fiction…
Firstly…
the stand… which was referenced on the season 3 dvd. After a deadly virus wipes out most of the human population, the survivers who have an unexplained immunity are drawn together by a series of metaphorical dreams, and must unite to fight a battle between good and evil. Other than the obvious connections, i’d like to focus on the dreams experienced by the survivors of the tale. The dreams are precognitive, not just the dreams of the dark man, and rats in the corn, but the fact that they dream of Mother Abigail, who they have not met, and her home, where they have not been. I often wonder with regards to my Construct theory, if the only thing that the creators of the construct, can fully control are the dreams of our Losties. Maybe Jacob/the creators can only create situations on the island with the help of those who are plugged in, like Ben and the hostiles, hence the lists. Most characters have had some form of precognition in dream form. Eko dreamed of Anna Lucia’s death, Locke’s airport dream, Claire dreamed of the cot mobile at the Staff Station, etc.
Another question with regards to a “Therapy machine” is the constant reoccurance of the phrase “Everything is going to change”, each time it has appeared( I count it 3 times so far) characters have been dreaming of their fears, or experiencing mind manipulation(room 23). Any thoughts folks?
insomnia…forgive me if i’m a little hazy it’s been a while since i read it
In insomnia, the main character becomes supersensitive, due to bouts of the afformentioned condition. He is able to initially see peoples mood, due to auras visible around or above them,. Later he is able to assess the state of peoples mortality, by being able to see an “invisible umbilicus” attached to the aura(which is cut by tiny bald doctors when your time is up!). Eventually he is able to affect events elsewhere “leaping through space” in the finale to the cockpit of a plane to avert a major disaster.
Although there are few connections, other than the ability to jump through space/time, and of course the plane, i find it interesting to note that “Death Auras” appear as a black cloud, much like Ole Smokie.
the shining…
I know it has already been discussed on the site, but Walt’s ability seems very similar to the Shining. Of course the ghost that Danny “speaks” to, is his future self projected back. Could Walt’s older appearance be explained by this phenomena.
the green mile… The prison officer in charge of executions at a prison, discovers that his newest inmate has the power to heal, and precognitive abilities. Again please note the black cloud that John Coffey spits out, each time he “heals”, and his ability to infect the Mr Jingles and Edgecomb with life. Maybe something similar could explain Richard’s youthful appearance?
dreamcatcher… The main crux of the story is not what interests me, but Jonesy’s memory warehouse. Which by all accounts seems like a place of stone and mortar, but is actually a sanctuary inside his brain, created during a coma following a car accident. A car accident caused by Jonesey’s precognitive downs syndrome friend. With reference to this, could the island be a collective memory warehouse, where flashbacks are revisited, and anything from memory can be summonned just by thought.
and lastly there is the langoliers… part of the book four past midnight In the Langoliers a group of passengers on a flight to Maine, awake to find that everyone who was awake has vanished, as the plane flew through a rip in time, they must quickly solve the mystery of how to return to their own time before the universe they are in is devoured by the eaters of time. What i find most interesting about this tale is that the survivors of this story fly a few seconds into the past, to find that one cannot revisit the past to witness events that have gone before. The place is empty of people as they only exist in “the present”, and that time winds slowly down, and that food is tasteless, beer has no bubbles, and matches won’t light, due to the fact this universe is stale. Could it be that the reverse is true of the island, could they have flown a few seconds into the future, where nothing has yet happenned, where everything is “fresh” where illness is a thing of the past?
and of course there is also… the dead zone… Schoolteacher Johnny is involved in a car accident, lays in a coma for years, then wakes to discover he has precognitive abilities, He must stop a possible future where the world is destroyed by a maniac pushing a button…
Sorry. I mentioned Desmonds clothes in my title didn’t i? Well i was just thinking with reference to a timeline theory, that if turning the failsafe key, removed the swan from the timeline entirely, Desmonds Dharma uniform would go with it. I know what you’re thinking… there were remains of the Swan in the jungle, such as the table tennis table, dartboard and other things, but couldn’t they have been brought from somewhere else, just like Des, Locke, and Eko?
Another quick point for discussion before i sign off. Aren’t both Locke and Linus’ mothers called Emily?? Enjoy my tasty brain vomit folks, feel free to pick out the carrots!
Key characters
| Short Name | Full Name | Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ana-Lucia | Ana-Lucia Cortez | 2.20, 2.7, 2.8 | 144 |
| Ben | Benjamin Linus | 3.20, 4.9, & 3” href=”/episodes/theres-no-place-home-parts-2-3/”>4.13 | 1817 |
| John | John Locke | 3.3, 2.17, 1.4, 1.19, 3.13, 3.19, 4.11, & 3” href=”/episodes/theres-no-place-home-parts-2-3/”>4.13 | 1292 |
| Richard | Richard Alpert | 322 | |
| Walt | Walter “Walt” Lloyd | 2.2, 1.14 | 363 |
Key episodes
| # | Title | Aired | Central character | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3.3 | Further Instructions | 10-18-2006 | John | 127 |
| 3.1 | A Tale of Two Cities | 10-4-2006 | Jack | 136 |
| 2.18 | Dave | 4-5-2006 | Hurley | 142 |
This is very far-fetched but I will throw it out there anyway…in regards to your statement re: both Locke and Ben having a mother named Emily: the same Emily, 2 different time-lines. In one, she has Ben and then dies, in the other she has Locke. I know, far-fetched, but ?
Not so far-fetched as related to the theory, ozzig.
JamCat, great tie ins to the books, especially Langoliers. Although I’m not a big fan of alternate timelines/universes, that doesn’t make you wrong or your theory invalid. In fact I’d often thought of the Langoliers during Season 1.
The Stand is another I can relate to.
Good job. +1
In the Dark Tower Series, most of Stephen Kings other books were mentioned. It’s been about a year, but I remember that the entire series focused on the writings of Stephen King. Some of his characters in The Shining, Pet Cemetery, The Stand (his best book) and other novels were put into the Dark Tower Series.
The Dark Tower is very interesting because it took Stephen King about 30 years to write all 7 books to his series. Actually, Stephen King is one of the characters in the Dark Tower series towards the end. And he plays a pivotal role as a writer. Actual life events that played in Stephen King’s life were in the book, i.e. his addiction to alcohol and drugs and a traffic accident that almost took Stephen Kings life.
Good theory +1
Look I’m really sorry. I was reading and thinking and paying attention and then I got to the bit about naked Desmond. And I forgot everything I was going to say. Bugger.
So anyway, I haven’t read much King so there is a lot to follow up on here. Seen both The Shining and The Green Mile (which traumatised me like you WOULDN’T believe, two hours of crying whilst watching it left me looking like I had been punched in the face!) as well as the Langoliers which I thought was pants.
+1 for the info!
MrsSawyer: I’m not sure we need to see “naked Desmond” and “bugger” in the same sentence ever again. Ever. And what is that jingling sound?
And I’m with you on that Langoliers thing. Never read the book, but saw the movie. Couldn’t beleive it was made by adults and professionals. It’s been years, but I seem to recall what were basically cartoon pacmen eating scenery. Ooh. I’m getting a chill just thinking about it. No. Wait. Sorry, that was just a fart.
As to the poster’s “crazy” idea about Locke and Ben, see this October post:
http://www.lost-theories.com/theories/2007/oct/18/ben-and-locke-brothers/
You may be crazy, but at least you’re not alone. I’ve always found that a comfort.
OH! Plus one, of course.
Jamcat, We know that the writers are huge Stephen King fans, and King has done some ghost writing for “Lost” on past episodes, so it doesn’t surprise me that some of the references from King’s books, are reflected in the story line, but feel that is probably where it ends. Nice work on the King references, though! +1
I recently saw “The Mist”. A relevant part of the story, was it involved a secret military operation, which discovered a window into another Universe. The operation went awry, allowing creatures from that Universe, into the present to wreak havoc on the town.
BTW, The Stand is the best novel of it’s genre, in my opinion.
Quarantine, We’ll take naked Des, anyway we can get him!
Dab: No! No naked Des.
However, I do want to enter my vote for Kate to turn the key on the next hatch.
Listen, Quarantine! We are equal opportunists here, if you get naked Kate, the ladies get naked Des, and naked Sawyer. Oh, yeah!! Who’s your daddy??
Naked Kate! Naked Kate!
But I’m only going to watch her for the articles.
Dab: I agree about The Stand.
Everybody else, thanks for your comments. The reason i wrote this post was to reference what is obviously inspiration for the writers, and encourage more food for thought. I didn’t realize King had ghost written on Lost. That’s way cool!!
Jam, The writers had an article about their meeting with King, almost a year ago in People magazine. It was interesting, as well as informative.
Quarantine, I promise only to read the articles, accompanying any photos of naked Des or Sawyer! Yeah, I hope nobody quizzes me on them, I mean the articles, that is!
Wink, wink!
Stephen King said the show was a great opportunity for writers to introduce characters that the audience would have time to connect to and then to wring the audience out like a dishcloth by slowly killing them all off.(something like that). Pretty much the formula for all his books.
Oh, WTF! They better NOT kill Sawyer!!!!
Dab, don’t wink at me. Your feminine wiles will not work on me, I am too strong for that.
So..what are you wearing?