Alex Part 2: What Does Alex Believe About Her Parents?
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By AngeloComet
- Alex Part 2: What Does Alex Believe About Her Parents?
- Created: Nov 12, 2007
- Last updated: Nov 8, 2008
- After episode: 3.22: Through The Looking Glass
- Status: Current
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But you should know, John, my daughter currently hates me.
— AngeloComet
Alex’s mother is Danielle. Alex’s father, it’s safe to assume (he was Danielle’s true love and they had been together long enough to have an anniversary), was Robert. Robert was part of the science team that Danielle believed became infected - so Danielle subsequently shot and killed him. This is what we know.
However, the question here is what The Others have told Alex. What does Alex know prior to the end of season 3? Did Alex know she was taken from her real mother? Did Alex know her real mother lives on the Island? If not, who did she think her real mother was? Come to that, who does she think her father is?
Let’s look into this and see if something can be deduced. Alex sometimes calls Ben “dad” so it’s pertinent to start here and ask if she believes Ben is her biological father. I’ll lay my cards out on the table and tell you what I think. No. I don’t think Alex believes Ben is her biological father. Perhaps she once did, but I don’t think she does now.
I think of the end of season 3 (a point by which Alex had come to “hate” her father (she expresses this sentiment in a deleted scene, right after Ben first tells her he has a tumur)). I think of how Alex watched Ben be beaten by Jack and didn’t say a word. I think, no matter how much she may have said she hated him, to watch her own father be beaten like that would provoke a reaction. Unless she didn’t consider him to be her father.
You might need more convincing. I don’t blame you. Have a look at this. It’s the moment when Alex turned up at the ‘runway site’, firing her slingshot about the place.
pickett - You know you’re not supposed to be here. So let’s just calm down…
ALEX - What did you do to him, Danny?! Where is he?! I wanna talk to Ben.
Notice that? Alex, in this fit of excitement and emotion, did not refer to Ben as “dad”. Technically, Alex is the boss’ daughter; she could exploit that position in front of The Others. But she doesn’t. At least, not here. But later, when a more calculating Alex is trying to bust Karl out of Room 23. . .
ALDO - Whoa! Whoa! Just stop! Alex, you’re not supposed to be here. If your dad finds out, he’s going to kill me.
ALEX - My dad was the one who told me to bring them here - to you. Look, maybe you should call him. I’m sure he’s got nothing better to do.
So what’s clear to me is The Others regard Ben as Alex’s father. Juliet says, “We both know your father.” And so stop me if you think I am going too far, but I think that Alex has been brought up believing Ben is her father, and only recently has she found out the truth. Either Ben told her. Or she found out by some other means. Possibly Juliet’s presence at resolving the fertility problem made Alex face the issue of her own parentage - since we don’t know how long fertility has been a problem this is a difficult call. However, Alex recently discovering Ben was not her biological father explains why she would have developed such hatred towards Ben. That level of betrayal could create such feelings, especially in a teenage girl. Because, no matter what, I just don’t see how she could otherwise listen to him say he has cancer and still not care, and watch him get beaten by Jack without a word of remonstration.
Ben tells Locke, “But you should know, John, my daughter currently hates me.” And in part 1 of my Alex theory I proposed that Ben intended to re-unite Alex with her mother, Danielle. Informing Alex that he was never her real father would certainly pave the way for such a reunion, dont’cha think?
Relations between Alex and Ben are not likely to improve, given what she has learned about her mother. I can point you towards two different sets of dialogue that pretty much tell us all we need to know. First, when Alex approaches a captive Sayid at the swings.
SAYID - You’re Alex, aren’t you?
ALEX - How do you know my name?
SAYID - Because you look like your mother.
ALEX - [frowning] My mother is dead.
SAYID - I’m sure that’s what they told you.
And, at the end of Season 3, the game is over and Ben finally has to give up the lie (something, as previously stated, I think he anticipated - I don’t see much other reason for him allowing Alex to accompany him to the Radio Tower).
[Alex approaches Ben, and Danielle approaches Alex]
ALEX - What?
BEN - [Sighs] Alex. This is your mother.
[They stare at each other, Rousseau holding back tears]
Maybe Alex was told that her mother died in childbirth like the other mothers on the Island, but somehow she managed to survive. Alex certainly has knowledge of childbirth and death, given her actions in aiding Claire’s escape from the Staff Station (her renegade role in The Others is something I’ll tackle more fully in the next Alex theory). Maybe she was told something else entirely about her mother. The point remains, she was almost certainly told her mother was dead by Ben, and now she’s found out he lied to her about it. If she didn’t have good reason to hate him before she’s definitely got good reason to hate him now.
Yeah, Angelo, I agree that Alex has very good reason to hate Ben now and she can be a cool customer.
I do think she used Bens name instead of Dad, at the airstrip site, more for the plot as the writers might not have wanted us to know that Ben was her father at that point.
Nice work AC and I think Alex is certainly questioning if Ben is her father though i’m not convinced she knows he’s not. This conversation with Karl from Greatest Hits certainly raises the question.
ALEX: He’s gonna to kill them, Karl! Austen and Ford saved your life. You owe them. You better take this.
[She hands him a gun]
KARL: If I get caught, your father’s gonna kill me this time.
ALEX: Is he my father?
[They kiss]
ALEX: Now go.
[Karl runs through the jungle to the shore and sets off in the canoe]
But i think if she knew this conversation with Ben in TTLG would have been slightly different.
ALEX: Why did you let me come?
BEN: I let you come because I’m delivering you to your new family. I let you come because you betrayed me, Alex.
ALEX: You locked Karl in a cage. You put him a room and tried to brainwash him.
BEN: I didn’t want him to get you pregnant. I suppose I overreacted. We better get going.
Alex protests are all about Karl, surely if she knew he was not her father and had been lying to her all this time she might have added these point to her lists of protest.
Good pick-up, LJ. Completely overlooked that conversation with Karl.
This does alter the perspective that she definitely knew Ben wasn’t her father, and instead leans towards the notion that, for whatever reason, her suspicions were raised high enough to say them aloud.
This could still fit in that Ben has allowed the doubt to exist, of course. . .
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AC this is a good addition to your previous post. Definitely makes sense to me. Perhaps the conversation with Sayid is what starts her off thinking about her parentage?
I would think though that even though Ben is not her biological father, at some point in her past he probably has been like a proper father to her. Therefore it makes sense to me that she would still call him Dad occasionally.
On a side note, she’s not very worried about Karl is she?! Having arranged with Kate and Sawyer to rescue him she then asks him to go back into the line of danger almost immediately. Something tells me she is just as ruthless as her father.
I’ll get onto Karl and Alex, Mrs. S, but that kind of ruthlessness hadn’t occurred to me. I’ll bear it in mind. . .
Ben’s responses to Alex regarding Karl fit the profile of a psychopath.
AC—very good analysis. And good discussion and additions. As to when these suspicions might begin—here’s a somewhat “out-there” suggestion. If Kate does turn out to be a mole—it was Alex who brings her out to be returned in “Hunting Party”—would they have had any time alone together before Kate was gagged in which Kate could have hinted at something? A LOT of hypotheticals there—not only that Kate is a mole, but that she’s working for a faction that would have the knowledge that Ben isn’t Alex’s father.
The other idea I have is that the suspicions might have begun when she helped Claire escape. I don’t know why then, except that she and Danielle are both involved in the escape, and also I think Ben used Alex here because he wanted Claire back at the camp (at the very least so that later she could get “sick” helping Juliet’s infiltration).
Jazprof, whilst Tom told Alex to bring Kate out it was actually Pickett who did, Alex persuaded him to do it so she could have a minute alone with Michael to ask about Claire. I don’t think she had anytime alone with Kate
Angelo, you’re a tease! There’s more to come?? Can’t wait. As for this one, excellent observations on your part as well as the comments. I’m intrigued by Alex and what she was told and what she found out. Even more so about how Karl fits into the story, who are his parents??? Can’t wait to hear your opinions on that one! +1
I think these questions are worthwhile to analyze, AC… well done…
… oh… and excellent comments by the way. I think the discussion is going the right direction.
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AC, Perhaps the references to Father / Daughter are “literal”. I have heard Alex refer to Ben as Ben, not Dad. When she does say “my dad”, it’s with sarcastic reference. Just a thought!
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