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On another Island somewhat close by there is a runway. Ben wante the sub blown up, so they had to start clearing rocks on the Island so planes could land there directly.

There was no need for Cindy to stay with the tail section once they were going to the beach….Libby was with Jack’s group - Libby was an “other”.

There is no time travel….Ben wanted certain people brought to the Island and “the others” did what ever it took to get them there. I believe that Jack was “grabbed” by the others and brainwashed into believing his dad was dead because the others needed him to get him on that plane. That is why the coffin on the Island was empty, and in the Flash forward Jack’s dad was…alive.

I believe that “the others/Ben”, were doing experiments off of the island as well as on it. Hurley saw “Dave” in the mental institution - Libby was there watching….but real quick to tell Hurley she hadn’t met him before when he said she looked familiar. We have Jack, the “miracle worker”….or was Sarah just an “other” off island experiment?

Somewhere along the way, some of our losties were brainwashed, and probably “experimented” on too. I don’t think they were completely, brainwashed….just given “false memories”. Many of our losties are special…..is Walt’s mom really dead? Or did Brian just need/want to get Walt to the Island? Claire was just a freaked out pregnant girl….was she brainwashed or just freaked out?

As we saw, Ben uses pictures and drugs to brainwash.

For example: One of the people they wanted on that flight was Kate. They used their horse made their little brainwash vidio — they even had Ray Mullins with a prosthetic arm (now - how funny, didn’t one of the guys in the orientation films have a fake arm?) They probably just ran Kate off the road, and took her…..of course she had to have sort of memory for why she was where she was. So they brain washed her, and let her wake up all groggy, and off to the airport she goes….of course the marshal goes too - (same brainwash tape at the end…right?) The horse was really on the Island - Ben and the others had pictures of it when they brainwashed Kate. Cassidy is in Sawyers flashbacks and Kates. So….was Cassidy an “other” and simply someone used as a “prop”.? Did Sawyer really sleep with Hurleys lottery lady….or was the lottery lady just used in Sawyers brainwashing vidio? Did Ben choose our losties because of their “family issues” or did he brainwash those images into their minds. (part of the experiment)?

Charlie - an addict trapped on an Island with statues full of heroin. And it seems they messed up one of their brainwashing sessions because Charlie and his brother both had on the same ring at one point……HMMM - guess that was an old picture of Liam…….?

Hurley’s hot air balloon was on the Island too….but Hurley’s hot air balloon was probably never in the real world and he probably didn’t win the lottery - Just props. Nice Virgin Mary statues!! I think someone had a point a few days ago about the plane…. There was something not right about the plane and Eko was going to figure it out. It is possible that Boone did too.

I could easily go on with the cross overs, but I think the brainwashing tapes were made and it was not the intention of the others/Ben to have them end up anywhere near each other and they were not very carefull.

So then…Des doesn’t get to the button quick enough and the plane goes boom.

Ben sent Ethan and Goodwin to find out who lived and who died and to get their surviving others and any of the children that did not have parents (because they would be safer with Ben and his group).

Ben’s biggest problem was that the losties were probably supposed to be kept on the other Island - or for all we know they were supposed to be flown to Penny’s dad, but only some of them were supposed to be left with Ben….the plane crashed, and that really messed things up…Ben got stuck with more then he could handle…a group of people, (Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Jack….) who had been brain washed and should have been on the other Island - then he had to figure out who was who etc.

Poor Desmond - they did a great job on him……Libby gave him a boat, and he ends up LOST and pushing the button but, someone needed that button pushed and it wasn’t Ben…..that of course leads us to who was dropping supplies and who sent Naomi.

Penny’s dad thought Dez would be a great candidate to be lost on an Island…..After all, he did really well with his experimental stay at the monistary…..who better to stay in a closed isolated space….a fired monk.

Poor Des and Penny fell in love. So for honer…he goes on the sailboat that LIBBY gave him.

Desmond probably got out of the hatch one day and needed a good brainwashing session to convince him that “his job was to push the button…”forget your old life” then when the hatch imploded his “real memory” came through or - even worse - he doesn’t even have all of his real memory yet and it is simply two brainwashing sessions….one that got him onto the Island, via LIBBY, and one they had to redo because he ran out of the hatch and they had to “remind him”

Someone was making food drops…It is likely that Penny’s dad was involved, and was probably supplying the food drops like I said - that is why he sent Des to push the button……but something made him suspicious (Locke blowing up Mikails hut, no more numbers……) so he hires Naomi’s company. When Des and the boys find her, she doesn’t really know what is going on……BUT……whoever sent her may have described someone like Mikail….the one eyed man…..sooooooo she is not alone….. Of course Penny’s dad has told Naomi as little as possible - just gave her a picture of Desmond and described a few of the people he knew were there..

It is hard to say how many “others” were on the plane when it crashed, but my guess is that Cindy and Libby were others…..

Of course the Island is a very special Island, but Ben has neglected their real purpose.

That is a whole other story……

Someone said in an earlier post that there really is only one answer…and if there is no time travel involved….our losties have been used and abused……

Key characters

Short Name Full Name Episodes Theories
Ana-Lucia Ana-Lucia Cortez 2.20, 2.7, 2.8 138
Ben Benjamin Linus 3.20, 4.9, & 3” href=”/episodes/theres-no-place-home-parts-2-3/”>4.13 1714
Bernard Bernard Nadler 2.19, 2.7 131

Key episodes

# Title Aired Central character Theories
1.1 Pilot, Part 1 9-24-2004 Jack 363

Comments

  1. sogood Jun 22, 2007 8:25 p.m. Comment: 1

    wow

    i think this is the best non time travel theory I have ever read… no it definentaly is. One question though, how does Jacob fit into all of this?

    brilliant work I love it holdiay.(+1)

  2. holiday Jun 22, 2007 8:32 p.m. Comment: 2

    I am thinking the Island and Jacob through…I have a basic thought, but, I want to think about it more. Thank you…..I like Stephen King and Sc. FI….but they said …..no time travel..not too many choices left…

  3. sogood Jun 22, 2007 8:36 p.m. Comment: 3

    well Im not sure if they are completely excluding issues involving time. Just time travel itself. If you want to look in the spoiler section and a lot of other places around this site, there is a good theory(not spoiler imo!) into how the island could be a time bubble. Where time doesnt pass the same way it does outside.

    who really knows….

  4. Lmeister Jun 22, 2007 8:48 p.m. Comment: 4

    First paragraph - “had to start clearing rocks for a runway because Locke blew up the sub.” I believe the time line is incorrect here. Kate and Sawyer were clearing rocks long before Locke blew up the sub.

    I like some of you explanations about brainwashing and setups, especially the thought that Walt’s stepdad set Walt up to get to the island. That is a good one.

  5. ProfOzone Jun 22, 2007 10:07 p.m. Comment: 5

    Interesting stuff, holiday!

  6. holiday Jun 23, 2007 12:28 a.m. Comment: 6

    ProfOzone..(thank you)..sorry - I know this is pretty much an oppisite to your syncrinicity….which I like (I loved the princes of serendip)…do we go there…well..at least that is HAPPY- I made the effort, to try to figure it out without without time travel, alternate r. , etc. …Thx for reading…..mine was long…you must read everything…..

  7. MrAlpert Jun 23, 2007 5:50 a.m. Comment: 7

    Clearing rocks for the ‘runway’ is a good assumption to make - what do you think the runway is for if planes can’t fly near the island without crashing?

    I also agree that Desmond has been majorly set up by the others (libby and Cindy et al) and the monastry thing is a good test of whether someone could push a button for ages, live in solitary - I guess that’s why they would have chosen the soldier who was killed on the rocks - take orders and is disciplined.

    I do think Christian Shepherd is dead though and I’m not sure all characters have been subject to Brainwashing but Locke could have been as he’s ‘special’ as could have Hurley and they have links with the mental institution where this could have been carried out.

    Good fresh ideas though +1

  8. holiday Jun 23, 2007 8:07 a.m. Comment: 8

    They were clearing the rocks after the hatch imploded…..but before Locke blew up the sub….but, I think Ben was planning the subs demise - Juliet and Jack REALLY wanted to get off the Island.

  9. osorio Jun 23, 2007 8:59 a.m. Comment: 9

    nonsense, no way its even near

  10. osorio Jun 23, 2007 9:09 a.m. Comment: 10

    there is no brainwash, the others didnt have no previous contact with the survivors, how could they sent infiltrators to a crashed plane, how would they know they survive

    oh, and christian shephard was not alive in the flash back

  11. cosminiacoban Jun 23, 2007 9:34 a.m. Comment: 11

    If it all was planned by the others why were Ben , Jacob, Ethan and Julliet so suprised when they saw the plane crashing on the Island. They didn’t have a plan , Ben just made it up that moment sending Ethan on one side and Goodwin on the other. Good theory but flawed in concept.

  12. Alcibiade54 Jun 23, 2007 9:35 a.m. Comment: 12

    I think they were clearing rocks because they have to farm after the incident in the hatch( the purple light). Somehow this made Dharma Stop sending food to the island.

  13. holiday Jun 23, 2007 9:46 a.m. Comment: 13

    Ben kept alot of secrets and told alot of lies Mikael thought Bonnie and Greta were on assignment in Canada…doing what??? Ben clearly stated he brought most of the people to the Island…and he clearly does at least attempt to brainwash Karl..(why did they show us that if it wasn’t important?)….and as far as real life goes..many people have had “false memories” put in their heads….at any rate, I based my theory on the idea that no time travel is involved, which we may find out is not the case

  14. aliceslookingglass Jun 23, 2007 11:46 p.m. Comment: 14

    I liked your idea about Libby being an “other.” I never even considered that before. I hope that’s not ture; she seemed so sincere when she gave Desmond her boat?!!? Yikes! +1

    I’m not so hot on the brainwashing thing - but of course don’t know for sure.

  15. freakme Jun 24, 2007 12:56 a.m. Comment: 15

    Hummm….

    I still don’t buy the brainwash story. But I really like the fact that your theory doesn’t involves worm holes, time loops, and stuff.

    Interesting point about Libby even tho I don’t think she was one of the ‘others’.

  16. sleepz Jun 25, 2007 8:42 a.m. Comment: 16

    Good post - do you think the rock clearing and the Hanso - Oceanic airlines buy out are connected.

  17. crbolosan Jun 25, 2007 9:42 a.m. Comment: 17

    I can’t remember but wasn’t it one of the Others that explained that the rock clearing was for the landing strip?

    Not a bad theory, but a couple issues in the beginning regarding Jack. You say the Others brainwashed him into thinking his dad was dead in order to get him on that plane. Why not make his flight TO Austrailia crash, instead of waiting for his return trip. But also, remember, the Others were surprised when they saw the plane crash over/on the island, so obviously they had not planned it. The other thing is, how do you plan for someone to survive a plane crash? People simply don’t survive plane crashes.

  18. thegirlislost Jun 25, 2007 11:04 a.m. Comment: 18

    This is an interesting idea.

  19. holiday Jun 29, 2007 7:54 p.m. Comment: 19

    For anyone who may read this….I only thought it out to be “possible”…brainwashing is possible…so even if time travel is involved….then it is a stretch to be scientifically explainable….which we were told it would be…………………………..right?,,,,,,I guess think some more!!!