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Interesting take on locke. I do agree that Locke has yet to fulfill his end of the quid pro quo. Of course knifing Naomi in the back could all be part of his debt to the island. Good theory, +1 from me.

I like this post! It makes perfect sense and Locke might indeed be the infamous “Cobra” we talked about. As Hurley said “Dude the Cobra’s this big bad guy. His identity’s been shrouded in mystery for four seasons.”. So we think for four seasons that Locke was a good guy and then it turns out to be the bad guy.

The only thing bothering me is that when we see scenes with Locke, he really seems like he is discovering things. He sounds genuine to me, and not like a double crossing mole.

Maybe Locke isn’t aware he is a mole? A bit like in “Total Recall” where Arnold Schwarzenegger doesn’t even know he is a mole, since his memory is wiped off.

+1 from me!

Really good points Occam….John is so shifty in those season 1 episodes.

Another time he was really suspicious to me was in Homecoming…..when John says he hopes Ethan hasn’t come back…he looks so creepy.

Theres something odd about his comment that hes counting on Boones help,when Boone offers to do sentry duty….Boone falls asleep…did that help Locke somehow?

Good thinking, Occam. I agree with xiv… I think there are genuine moments of mystery and discovery for John… and John is truly at odds with Ben from the get-go. But your theory could be adjusted here and there to account for that kind of thing.

Think about it, folks, since show #1 how many times has the camera, sometimes for no apparent reason, focused on John sitting alone on the beach, often watching something unfold from a distance, as if just him existing in the place was of supreme importance? I can’t think of any other character who’s been treated this way visually in the show.

Now… none of that is to say John is or has been a mole for the others. But the idea is plausible.

And somebody has that dag-blamed radio that Paulo brought back from the Pearl!!!

Occam…Jazzes group 1 discussion on Homecoming has lots to say about Locke including the points I brought up……(I knew I had read them somewhere :) heres the link

http://lost-theories.com/theories/2007/jul/24/group1-homecoming-conflict-man/

Occam: Not too shabby for your first theory!!!! I loved it!

And you got a +1 from lockeko! Now he doesn’t give those out often. That’s high praise. Of course, you got one from me too.

You brought up some very good points to support your theory, you did your research AND you made it interesting. What more could we ask for?

Great comments all around!!

Prof: Nice catch on the camera focusing on Locke away from the crowd, just watching so many times.

Guys: thanks for your comments… and votes! 5 out of 5 is more than I expected.

xiv: “Maybe Locke isn’t aware he is a mole?” That is exactly what I’m thinking. I believe Locke wants to prove himself he’s able to “be in command”, instead of being bossed around by mostly everyone — his boss, the guy at Walkabout, his dad, Eddie the cop, Jack…— but fails miserably by being the Island’s puppet.

ProfOzone: Well, you’re right. In fact, the title of my theory should be adjusted, because it sounds as if I thought Locke was a mole for the “others”. Clearly, as seen in seasons 2 and 3, Locke’s got an agenda of his own, so he wouldn’t be a mole for anyone except his own… About the camera “focused on John sitting alone on the beach”, I think there’s only one other person visually treated the same way: Rose. Woman of faith, and healed by the Island… Coincidence? I don’t think so! ;-)

wtfsignmeup: Thanks for pointing me towards Group 1’s thread. I’ll take a look at it. About Boone and Locke, there’s another thing that makes me itch. At the end of S1E11 “All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues”, Locke tries hard to make Boone go back to the caves. Boone doesn’t want to, and then Locke tosses the flashlight in Boone’s direction, but… “fails” and it lands on the ground over what we later discover is the Swan. Isn’t it weird? Locke’s a sure hit throwing knifes, but somehow fails to toss the torch? Come on!

when you get done with that check out this theory:

http://www.lost-theories.com/theories/2007/aug/25/ben-walt-and-danny-torrance-sh/

it rocks too.

Occam, you’ve presented a well written theory here - good job.

I respectfully disagree because I see Kate as the mole. I’ve always held Locke is more like Lucifer: the once great angel, the bringer of light, cast out to rule over the earth (the island). ProfO’s insight as to his treatment cinematically is spot on. He is an oddball, an outcast. Boone’s funeral is perfect testiony to this. The scene is shot from afar to amplify the distance, the rift that has developed between the tribe and Locke (still covered in Boone’s blood not so coincidentally).

So in that regard, I like the part of your theory that paints Locke as a mysterious, nefarious chracter.

+1 from me for the excellent debate! Keep going Occam, you’re allright in my book.

katrina: Good point, yours, about Boone being a sacrifice. Now what about this: Claire being taken away leads Locke to discover the Swan. Boone’s death leads Locke to discover the Pearl… maybe a sacrifice for every discovery?

Stip: As I already told ProfOzone, I’m starting to regret having chosen that title for my first theory. I also feel Kate might be Ben’s mole; my feelings about Locke are similar but not the same: he might be “the Island’s” mole. I keep feeling “the Island” is a character, a player by itself, and it doesn’t play in Ben’s team…

so if the island is an independent Actor, is Jacob playing for it, or is he playing for ben, or is he playing for some unknown?

Lockeko - good question about Jacob, but I don’t see it having anything directly to do with the island as its own character. That was, as Kat said, a demand by JJAbrams to get a green light on the project.

At this point, based on what we’ve been shown about Jacob, he is a huge teaser to be revealed in S4 and later.

Kind of like the Dallas cliffhanger…who trapped Jacob? Sorry, dude, best i could do with the material available. ;-)

Occam - no regrets dude, the debate has been excellent. Well done!

lockecko: As we have so little information about Jacob —and most of it coming ultimately from Ben— I can’t be sure. My feelings are, and I think I’m not alone in this, on the lines of Jacob being Ben’s “hostage”. Ben acts as Jacob’s oracle: nobody else can access him, nobody else can hear him, so nobody else knows what Jacob wants…

The scene where Jacob tells John to help him, in my opinion, tips the scales: Jacob does not play on Ben’s team, or at least not anymore. I think Jacob could be the Island’s spokesman, but as I said I’m not sure about that.

katrina: Yep, Locke tossed the torch in Boone’s direction and, as you put it, “thunk”. But still there are some things that makes me suspicious. First, why should he let Boone join the search party, but not Michael? Then he tries hard to make Jack go back to the caves, using Sayid’s leg as an excuse. All the time, he’s trying to delay things: first he wants to go back to organize a search party, later on he suddenly decides to take a break. When the search party start finding Charlie’s trail, Locke picks up another one of his own, and lets Kate and Jack follow what it’s obviously the right track…

Even Boone says “Still, 15 minutes since we’ve seen any sign. What are we following?”; Locke answers “My gut”, changes subject and all of a sudden wants Boone back at the caves. And, as I said before, I don’t buy that toss was accidental…

katrina: Spooky scene, you’re right. There’s another little thing on that scene I always thought was relevant: Charlie changes his “F” for an “L”, so it reads “LATE” instead of “FATE” on his left hand. First time I saw that, I thought: “Late, as in the late Charlie Pace“… which, in S3 final, is his fate, after all…

Are you suggesting Locke knew the hatch was there and tossed the flashlight so that Boone would drop it? No way.

Now, on allowing Jack and Kate to follow the right track, yes, he obviously has lost interest in finding Claire. Maybe he knows where she is and only appears to be concerned. I dunno, he made the crib for her - he is constantly contradicting himself.

Locke is a loose cannon, a raging tidal wave - leaving blown up hatches and subs and dead people (Boone, Eko, Cooper, Naomi) in his wake. He will do anything to get to the secret of the island.

WHY IS LOCKE SO obsessed BY THE QUEST FOR THE ISLAND’S SECRET? He’s like Ahab and the hunt for Moby Dick: “I’ll chase him ‘round Good Hope, and ‘round the Horn, and ‘round the Norway Maelstrom, and round perdition’s flames before I give him up…”

Does he think the secrets to the universe exist on the island?

Something tells me we are going to find something absolutely mind-blowing is at the Temple….

Occam I like it well thought out and defended. It could be. +1

I do think that he is the Island’s mole if he’s anyone’s. Seeing whats happening in both groups Losties and the Others.

Hi Occam: Interesting perspective on Locke. On several occasions I have struggled with making a decision about him. Based on the flashbacks, my heart goes out to him. He plays on my sympathies. Yet his behavior on the island, often causes me to question his motives. I mean what is his Ultimate agenda? We still don’t know 100% if his agenda is good, evil, or neither good or bad just different. Deep down I think Locke is good! I HOPE he is good because I REALLY like him.

Ok, I have a question for everyone or anyone. I apologize if this has been mentioned before…I just haven’t read it. Is it an “official fact” that there is an actual “mole” in the Lostie’s camp? Or is it just fan “speculation”?

Because if it is a definite FACT, then I would be willing to entertain Locke as the mole. However if the mole issue is just speculation, then I would actually venture to say that there isn’t a mole at all. +1 from me though Occam :)

good call paintgirl. I don’t know whether or not its fact or speculation, but I’m sure someone on this site does.

Hey Lockeko, I just found out from 007 that it is speculation…. hmmm

Stip: I am suggesting Locke was “remote controlled” by the Island, exactly the same way as he was when he almost discovers the Pearl. In fact, when he fails to discover the Pearl and gets stuck with the Swan, the Island contacts Eko so he makes Locke move on.

And, about your question, I think the answer is clear: because he thinks he’s the only one able to discover, and understand, the Island’s secret. I sort of remember a conversation, maybe between Eko and Locke, about Locke believing his fate was to save the world…

well pg, I guess that means no mole no more. still a good suggestion though. It would be very difficult for a “mole” to be someone who was on the plane, unless it is a person who has become a mole since the crash. Seems to me very few of the Losties have actually had the opportunity to even meet with the others. However, Locke is one of those who has had the opportunity. Who knows where this will lead. Great research PG, you are such a Bond Girl.

I agree Lock!

PG & Lockeko: just because it is fan speculation doesn’t mean we are wrong. There COULD be a mole, there’s just no way to prove it.

Occam: your use of italics is subtly telling me to chill out, but we’re cool. I’m really enjoying our back n forth. I always thought it was a person manipulating John Locke - like a Ben or a Richard. I don’t think Cerebus is island controlled - I think its man made. I think Alpert used Cerebus to contact Eko to get Locke back on his way. Then when Eko was no longer a realistic candidate to replace Ben, he was killed.

Just my opinion. Doesn’t disprove your theory either. Nice work.

Stip: Of course we’re cool. My use of italics just meant I’m not trying to make anyone believe what I posed as a theory.

As for a person manipulating Locke, well, I think almost everyone can manipulate him. Ben did, both when he was prisoner at the Swan and later at Othersville —the submarine thing is quite an example. Richard did, too, when pointing to him someone else could do his “dirty job”. But, as I said, I think the Island does, too. I think the Island knows about Locke’s hunger for being special, and uses that knowledge in its own advantage.

The Swan was obviously man made, but it might serve to deeper purposes, alien to its initial design. Same could go for Cerberus, in case you’re right.

Stip: i agree, right now no one is right or wrong…its just all speculation. My opinion that there isn’t a mole cannot be proven anymore than the idea that there is a mole. I think it would create a big “shock value” moment in the show when they reveal who it is….but I just don’t think the writers would use this kind of twist for shock value. They have other options for “shock value”. But who knows at this point… I will say that it’s an interesting possibility. :)

Occam: I really like your theory! Very nice job! +1

I would tend to agree with Locke being more on the “evil side”. I say this because, his mother told him he was immaculately conceived, and Cooper, may not turn out to be his true father. The strange behaviour Cooper displayed on “the island”, has led me to believe, that something is up! Now, there is some cause for wild speculation! There has always been something very eerie about Locke, to me. An unsettling feeling that there is a lot more to his story than meets the eye! I will be watching with intent to see which direction his character will go! I am not suggesting that Locke is evil, but I am not suggesting he is a saint, either!

Great debate! Great Comments!

Wow, very interesting speculation and comments. One thought about that weird conversation wtf brought up—the whole point of that seemed to be for Locke to increase the picture of Ethan as an almost supernatural evil, so to me that could have two effects 1) discourage people from going after him, or conversely 2) increase the liklihood that someone would kill him rather than hold him for questioning. I tend to think the latter, and if so, that would fit ( I think) with Locke supporting Ben. I think Ben had some plan for Aaron/Claire which required taking them AND having them get away. He let Ethan in on part 1 but not part 2, and he didn’t want Ethan around to let the others know.

I think the whole idea about the sacrifice/gift really works and explains Naomi’s death as kat said. The “thunk” I took to be the island revealing the hatch to Locke. The camera work and music—and the way the camera work parallels Locke/Rose. Sawyer is also a “sit-alone” guy—though there the point may be about the group dynamics more than anything. Desmond too in some ways, an outsider & a hunter like Locke. He’s interestingly paralleled to both Locke and Jack.

Locke=Lucifer—Stip, do you think the “fall” is the plane crash, or is it Locke’s fall out the window? In which case the morality of the fall might be reversed?

Cor I nearly missed the talking point of the day! I think this is a brilliant, well written theory BUT I don’t agree one iota. I think Locke is good and I’m going to go out on a limb here (TM) and say that the Others are also good and we will find that out by the end of the show.

Still a +1 for thought provoking theory and comments.

Jazzie: Very good insights! As usual.

Occam, I think you were smart to include the caveat “unwitting mole”. I think Locke’s faith is being taken advantage of by the Others.

So while I agree with mrssawer that Locke is good, I think it’s possible he is being used for ill.

Really fantastic first theory Occam. Definite plus from me.

Jaz: Locke’s “fall” - the plane crash or falling from the buidling. Hmmm, for it to tie back to Lucifer, it would have to be the critical event that redefined him as having been cast out. Symbollically , that would have to be Cooper (his father) pushing him out the window. Not a very subtle metaphor for being “cast out” would you agree?

But in order for this to work, Cooper can’t be evil, which he is, so maybe Lucifer doesn’t work. Maybe Vader works better. Starts off as good, strays for a while, then reprieves himseld in the end. i dunno.

I’m now leaning more toward Shamballa in that he is Alpert’s puppet.

Dab: “Locke’s mother telling him he was immaculately conceived.” I agree, what an ODD statement to make, even from a deranged person. That would mean she believes whoever impregnated her was deity?

Oooh, what if Jacob is really Locke’s father?

Exactly, Stip: Maybe she is not that deranged! It is definitely an odd statement for one to make. One, in which we should be paying attention to. And, I had thought of Jacob being Locke’s daddy! Guess, like everything else, we’ll see.

Paintgirl18 and mrssawyer: Locke is good, of course he is… as good as Ben ;-) Good and bad are labels imposed by the speaker. Ben obviously believes his ultimate motivations are good, and I’m sure Locke does too. And they both play Machiavelli with their respective groups: without a doubt, they act “for the ultimate good” of people whose opinions are not sought. They believe on their “daddy knows best” courses of action.

jazprof: In my opinion, the fall out the window could be what made Locke flip. Although he already was somewhat “mischievous”, having participated in illegal activities and being totally aware of it, I’m afraid Locke lost his faith in mankind when he was thrown out of the window by his own father… someone he loved even after being conned by him.

You might be right about that, Occam!

Ehrm… about what, exactly?

Stip: You said Cooper is evil. Do you think Sawyer is evil, too? I can’t see any difference between the pre-crash Sawyer and Cooper. In fact, Sawyer is Cooper, by his own will. He even took his name after Cooper’s alias of the moment…

And no, mate, I’m not looking for a fight. ;-)

Dab and Stippo,

I’m loving this Jacob, Locke, immaculate thing. I’m going to throw some things out at you.

John has a sister but she died early(?) Is that correct and if so what season and episode? I would like to review that and look at the surroundings and such. I thought it was a playground thing.

What if John (and not Ben) was born on the island but doesn’t know it. He was a foster child through childhood and doesn’t know much about his birth and I can’t recall seeing anything about it.

Maybe John’s Mother thinks he is “special” like some of the Others do because he actually survived birth on the island?

The more plausible explanation might be that his mother conceived on the island, got shipped out, and then had John. John is returning and has a bond with it.

shamballa: S1E16, “Outlaws”. Locke tells that story to both Kate and Sawyer about her foster mother believing a golden retriever was her sister —I assume he meant his step-sister— who died when she fell off some monkey bars and broke her neck.

By the way, the previous post was a courtesy of lost-tv.com… or did you think I really have such a wonderful memory? ;-)

I’ll tell you what Occam, if you told me, I would believe it bud. You had to have the menatl recall just to get there.

Check out my post for any links you may not have and add any that aren’t listed please.

http://lost-theories.com/theories/2007/jul/14/i-can-always-spot-newbies/

It’s always nice to have resources handy.

I need to re-watch that episode too. Thanks for the info..

John’s age is one thing that throws me off though.

Conception would be pre-Dharma and as far as we know pre-Island activity.

He is probably in his early to mid 50’s on the show?

That would put his D.O.B. somewhere in the 1950’s or about 20 years before the initiative.

Occam: Cooper=Evil, yes, no doubt in my mind, Cooper=parasite of the worst strain. Where’s Al Pacino and his flamethrower when we need him?

That’s why Locke=Lucifer doesn’t work because Cooper=Evil.

Regarding Sawyer, no, he is NOT evil. He was misguided before the island. On the island, he is going through the moth transformation. He has exercized his demons (by vanquishing Cooper) and his identity is now in transition. He’s heading into his 2nd life.

I’m the one who coined the phrase to describe him as “the diamond in the rough” (so I’ll take my own TM, Stip nods to ProfO) because he has a lit of edges to him, some quite jagged, but underneath, his soul radiates with a fission of heart pumping goodness and a primal love for Kate that he is trying to deny, but can’t control.

Stip cracks knuckles, shoves mountain out of the way and struts into the dark territory with open hand raised toward the heavens…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U9Ycrlg34Q

Very nice theory I like it I have to say :-) and all the comments too. However, I have one question if Locke is a mole then why he told Sawyer about Juliet been a mole from Ben? If he was bad he didn’t need to help the losties telling them about her. But, It is true I think he is becaming more weird in every episode especially from the episode ENTER 77 when he blew the flame station and the submarine with out any reason. I like it you deserve a +1 :). Great Job mate

By the way for those interested on reading my theory I just edited it today for the people who were interested on reading it, here is the link

http://lost-theories.com/theories/2007/aug/25/my-lost-theory-codelost/

let’s see what people think of it

regards CoDeLoST

Occam: I view Sawyer, as a wounded soul. He has been damaged and therein lies the root of his self destructive behaviour and inability to allow anyone to stand close to him. If he did, he wouldn’t have been able to find enough hatred and self loathing required to kill Cooper. I don’t suspect we will see a softening of that behaviour for awhile, because now he bears the guilt of those actions. Oh, what a tangled web, we weave!

Stip: I have seen people move mountains!

Shamalama: You could be right about Locke’s mother. Look for a major twist in the storyline with Locke at some point.

I hear ya dab! it’s a coming.

That and the temple weirdeness.

This discussion is awesome!

Immaculate conception—possibly IVF? Do we know for sure when the earliest DI activity is? Locke says to Charlie at some point that he’s over 40 (and still likes Drive Shaft) so he could be born in the 60s. If it was IVF he could have been conceived on island but born off it—ooo kind of the inverse of Aaron!

Stip, could he be the anti-Lucifer—same story but with moral poles reversed? And, I love it when you defend Sawyer! Just was going to add—before the crash, Sawyer is only a killer in that last act of revenge before the island; he’s not generally a killer whereas its pretty clear that Cooper kills regularly to cover his tracks. And he’s not swayed by the fact that he’s going to ruin a young child’s life. Off the top of my head, he’s the most evil character I can think of on the show.

CoDe—I think it’s possible as others have suggested that it’s not Ben, but the island or Richard that Locke’s representin’

Jaz: anti-Lucifer, hmmm, that’s rather brilliant, I like it actually! Would explain why he is so screwed up psychologically. He can’t even get his archetype right, lol. Good clarification as to Sawyer. And its easy to defend him, he’s a guys guy. I can so see him stomping to “We need the funk” with his LT boyz wearing his X-Men backpack.

But I think Locke pre-dates Dharma. And him knowing Driveshaft. Personally, I don’t buy it. He ain’t the Great White DJ.

Sham: I could totally agree with your pose about Locke having been born on the island. I know Locke had a brother, but can’t remember a sister.

Dab’s right: we’ve got lots of possible snakes yet to pop out of Locke’s mailbox.

dabiatchishere, Stip, and jazprof: As Ben would put it, I lied ;-) No, I don’t really think Sawyer is Cooper, just he wants —or rather, wanted— to be him. But I —sorry, mate— disagree with Stip re Sawyer having exorciced his demons. It looks to me as if, every time Sawyer is forced to do something really evil —I mean, murder— he hates himself even more. In this, I’m more with dabiatchishere

jazprof: As far as I know, “The Dharma Initiative was created in 1970” — Dr. Marvin Candle says. Locke must have been born around the 60s, right, so before the DI was working. So I’m with shamballa and Stip, here. But I rather like the IVF idea. Never thought of that, I guess I bought the “crackpot mummy” idea.

Stip: You positive about Locke’s brother? I know someone mentioned how Locke was supposed to play backgammon with his brother, but I didn’t find anything when I looked for it…

I’m amazed, guys. Awesome discussion, as both katrina and jazprof already said. I’m enjoying it lots.

Stip: Well, it seems there is a reference to Locke’s brother. S1E19, “Deus Ex Machina”, first flashback. Locke tells a boy in the toy shop he used to play Mouse Trap with his brother. I think he, again, means step-brother, but I don’t have proof any way or the other…

jazprof: I’ve been giving a thought about the “fallen angel” thing, and guess what… Now I’m sure the fall off the window is “the” fall. He’s broken and lose his faith, then he’s healed at the Island and… faith is back. Seems like it?

hmmm he would sort of be a repeat faller then (unlike the original Mr. L), ‘cause he loses his faith more than once? (a repeat offender? )

At first I was going to say that there was a difference with Lucifer in that Lucifer falls because of pride rather than loss of faith, but then I realized there’s an interesting connection. Each time Locke loses faith, he gains pride. (Hex’s division of John vs. Locke; John=faith; Locke=pride) I think the interesting thing the writers are showing there is that pride is a result of a real injury to self—like an attempt to quickly get back up after a fall, an illusion of total independence and self-reliance because there is really this wound to the self. “Don’t tell me what I can’t do”—the attitude Locke has from the fall to the moment when the island heals him. Then that is a true healing instead of the false one of pride. And when he loses faith again, that same attitude emerges in his complete reversal about entering the numbers—a pride that refuses to consider (until it’s too late) that he might be wrong. Interesting that each time loss of faith/pride emerges, he falls again with the loss of his legs.

Good catch, jazprof. First time Locke seems to be loosing faith —not really, because he still wants to believe— is, I think, on S1E19, “Deus Ex Machina”, when he can’t open the hatch. That’s when he has his “Theresa” vision —the sign he keeps telling Boone the Island will send. “Vision” Locke is using again the wheelchair, sort of a warning or even a threat.

On a side note, I think this vision is quite important. Locke is obsessed trying to open the Swan’s hatch, but he’s pointed to the Pearl. Kind of a prod, a “guy, could you just move on?” hint. Does the Island —or what/whoever sent him the “dream”— want Locke to think the Swan is a fraud? Does it/him/her want Locke to be able to see inside the Swan, through the Pearl’s monitors?

Curiously enough, as soon as Locke’s faith seem to be fully recovered… he temporarily loses the use of his legs. Something/someone trying to stop him? Or was that because, as Locke put it later, Boone was a the “required sacrifice”?

Jazzie: Very nice observations, about Locke losing the use of his legs! I like it a lot!

Occam, I have just remembered why I come to this site, this theory is great and you guys are awesome. brilliant post and fantastic comments

[Bows to sleepz. Then remembers it is a bot, so can’t bow. Whatevers] ;-)

Top post mate. I think Locke might have been to the island before also.

I mean, looking back, he always seemed so relaxed when he first arrived on the island.

The way the producers filmed him sitting on the beach with a long staring look with the scar on his face suggests he knows something the other losties do not. He almost looked evil, maybe once initiated with the island, he felt the healing sensations and something was talking to him or there was definately a connection between him and something else.

What was with that little whistle he made to call vincent?? De he pick that from his hunting days??

He talks about giving the island something to get something back. I think the island is a metaphor for a person, group or organization.

A +1 from me though pal.

Occam….thanks for explaining your reasons for leaving the site on your profile.

Such a shame though as i always enjoyed your comments(serious and not so serious : )

The thing is,if all the good guys like you leave due to the vocal minority of trolls……well what kind of site will this be?My thinking is that you just ignore the trolls,flag their theories and move on .Otherwise your just giving them what they want.I have to admit i do like to see LE and others sometimes give them a serve,because its done in a funny way.Anyway…still hoping you will reconsider. PS…Im not stalking you ; )

lol….cute! Ok ..maybe Im stalking you just a little bit : )

you go wtf!

that’s a great point. If the “good” posters leave, then the dark side wins.

Stip tosses Occam a sword

Come on Occam! Care to slay some dragons with me?

I’ll even let you have first shot at the crappy stuff, we can make a schedule or something

dude you got to come back, WTF is stalking you, and she’s hot like claire and she’s got the accent

Hey, great reparte.

I do want to share one thing outside this chat that may interest you all. Two of the show’s producer/creator/writers were on Elvis Mitchell’s radio show “The Treatment”. Below is a link to the archive.

In the interview, they speak of Locke as being a key component to the show and how it all unfolds. Also, they discuss the format of the show..once you listen, you have a new, fresh perspective of how to look at people and events…more of a “big picture” perspective. I equate it to a camera’s lense opened all the way out…zooming in now is more poignant…blah blah blah.

No spoilers, just listen and enjoy.

http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/tt/tt070307damon_lindelofandc

Locke is an amazing character he is by far the most interesting. I love a locke flashback episode because he has an interesting back story and the whole locke/jack thing in season 2 was cool. I can understand what you mean about locke wanting to recruit people. But i dont think locke would hurt people… but then again he did kill that woman at the end of season 3… the british one… was her name naomi.. Imissed the last few episodes of season 3…

DocOc come baaaaaack we miss you! Hope the Occamette is wellest.