Naomi’s boat will not make it to the island
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By lockeko
- Naomi’s boat will not make it to the island
- Created: Aug 9, 2007
- Last updated: Aug 14, 2008
- After episode: 3.22: Through The Looking Glass
- Status: Current
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This theory is based on A deal was struck… by ProfOzone. You may wish to read it before continuing.
Before season 4 ends, Hurley wil gnaw on Ben’s rotting corpse.
— lockeko
Hello all:
While reading a verbal joust between XIV and you-know-the-name, yktn made an excellent comment about the tsunami of 12-26-04. If the losties are in the pacific, and approximately 90 days have passed, they are approaching Christmas 2004. In the real world, we know that a terrible tsunami hit on 12-26 and wreaked havoc all throughout the pacific. I think, and feel free to disagree, that the writers will use the tsunami to destroy/disable Naomi’s boat, and prevent rescue from the island. Plus the survivors of that event will form another faction on the island, setting up further conflict for both the others and for the losties. I suppose the tsunami could also have a tremendous effect on the folks already on the island as well, and may totally change the direction we think the show is headed towards. Please comment, and give thanks to YKTN for mentioning the tsunami in his commentary to XIV.
Would certainly be an interesting twist and it is indeed plausible.
It’s really too early to say anything else about this since we simply don’t know what went wrong prior to Jack’s miserable life in L.A. during the flashforward. Obviously a wrong choice was made, but by whom, or more importantly WHEN, isn’t exactly clear yet. For all we know it was never the boat that got them off the island, and maybe it was indeed a tsunami that prevented that from happening, but that is not in the survivors’ control. And I believe it was a survivor choice that made Jack end up like that, and not some random factor.
We’re gonna have to see what happens. Would be cool if this theory turned out to be true to be honest :-)
This has been discussed some. Some of conversation has involved debating as to whether or not dealing with the tsunami in the show would be in good taste. I think the show’s creators have commented on this.
Dear lockeko,
Thanks for the acknowledgement ;)
lockeko: didn’t the authors confirm that they WILL be rescued?
Anyway.. this is not new, check http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Timeline:December_2004/Theories
Dear xiv,
Thanks for the link. But I don’t remember them confirming they’ll be rescued…
The tsunami of 2004 took place in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Sumatra.
If the island is where we think it is (West of Australia near Fiji) then it wouldn’t have been affected.
Even if the island was in the Indian Ocean near Bali they could be OK. It is amazing that Bali was virtually untouched by the tsunami.
http://www.fugly-bali.org/tsunamis-earthquakes.html
Good taste is a good point. A lot of people were seriously negatively impacted by that event.
I don’t think there as close to Bali as they are to Fiji, which I thougt was very affected by the tsunami, may be getting my facts confused though.
yktn: well, at least some of them have to be rescued : Kate & Jack, since we saw them OFF the island… but it can be, of course, that some will stay behind.
In either case, that would mean that Naomi’s ship will make it to the island… we’ll have to wait & see i guess… (like always)
Dear everyone,
I postulated the island is in the Indian Ocean, off the coast of Madagascar. If it is there, the tsunami could or could not have affected the island. Here’s why: in truth, the waves had diminished by the time it reached the Horn of Africa.
However, it does give some wiggle room for the writers to choose to include it or not.
If they do: the waves were powerful enough to affect the island.
If they don’t: the distance was too far, hence the waves weren’t powerful enough to affect the island.
lockeko: Good points! Although, I have to concur with Prof on this one. I heard the podcast in which the tsunami was discussed. I don’t think they will touch on this aspect, for the reasons mentioned.
Likewise, good points. I’ve wondered about that myself, with the timing and all, but I have to agree with dab and Prof on this one. I don’t think they will touch the tsunami out of respect.
I agree with most of the other posters here that the tsunami will be off limits. Besides, if they did decide to show the tsunami as part of the show it really wouldn’t have any bearing on the ship. The force of a tsunami travels under the surface of the ocean and creates little more than a swell on the surface of the ocean as the tsunami passes. If the ship were in the open sea the tsunami would pass safely below the ship. It’s only when the tidal force approaches the land mass of a continent that the water is forced above the surface and the wave develops. A small island wouldn’t have much influence on a tsunami like the one that hit in 2004. I would think the ship and the crash survivors would be perfectly safe. There’s another reason for the producers to ignore the 2004 tsunami - it simply wouldn’t be relevant to the island and the show.
Jukin, Spot on. One of the safest places to be in a tsunami is in a boat on the water. As Jukin mentioned, tsunamis cause only a very minor disturbance on the surface of the water until they reach the continental shelf. It is generally only after reaching the continental shelf that the water begins to crest upwards and the “wave” begins to rise out of the water due to energy conservation principles (tsunami energy is product of speed, which slows in shallower water, and wave height, which correspondingly grows in shallower water) and the non-compressability of liquids.
Thus, only if the boat was between a truly significant landmass and the continental shelf (or equivalent thereof) would it be in trouble. IMHO, I just don’t think our island is that close to any large landmasses.
Plus, if the boat was in trouble by being within the continental shelf, then so too likely would our Losties be. Our Losties would then be in real serious trouble. I mean, can they survive a plane crash and tsunami…that might be too much.
Good catch on the date though. And really who knows, it’s Lost!
they have 3 days and 80 clicks to get to the island. if they are in the harbor the effect of the tsunami would be horrendous.
next, naomi’s boat does not have to be their way off the island. It could be destroyed and they could still be rescued by another ship.
Dear lockeko,
I agree with your take. I think the writers still have a choice to include it if they so choose. But if they fear some kind of backlash (which they’d undoubtedly recieve), they might skip the incident all together, and suggest the waves were to weak to affect the island, wherever it was…
And yes, whoever said it’s Naomi’s boat that rescues Jack and Kate?
I agree that it has not been proven that it is Naomi’s boat, but I do however think that it is The Hanso Foundation, The Dharma Initiative, or The Widmore group or a collection of the three…. and the reason is that Jack and Kate have received a “Golden Ticket” from Oceanic Airlines and we know that they are in leagues with the DI … and it stands to reason that it was some sort of hush money package given to those that were rescued/escape. I also think that the DI or related parties gave Kate a new identity of sorts in return for her silence… because I am still having trouble believing that Naomi told them the truth about 815 being found at the bottom of the ocean. I mean, what story was given to the public at large when survivors showed back up in America? I’ll be willing to hazard a guess, that the public doesn’t even know that Kate was rescued… Giving her a new identity was probably a lot cheaper than making her legal troubles disappear… Which also makes me assume that whatever cover story they concocted for Jack to tell he is growing tired of telling… he tells Kate that he “is tired of lying” …
Agreed on both counts.
If the boat was in a harbor, it would be in serious trouble.
Also, you are right — we do not know yet how Jack and Kate have gotten off the island. It could be another boat, or heck even a helicopter or a plane (assuming the air strip is finished or the boat can land in the water) that rescues them.
Back to the tsunami, If we believe that they won’t simply ignore the tsunami, is it too disrespectful to suggest that an event on the island, in an upcoming episode, will be the cause of the tsunami?
As mentioned, this is highly doubtful as I assume they will just leave this incident alone out of respect for those lost, but it certainly would be a twist. If indeed they did proceed with this thought, it might also be a way to assist the viewers in locating the island (if not in the Pacific). But now I think my thoughts are just rambling.
Cheers!
Question of etiquette for everyone, if you’ll be kind enough to oblige:
I gave this theory a “-1” because I disagree (both because I don’t think the writers would feel the need to adhere to real-life situations, and because it would be in poor taste). Is that an acceptable thing to do, or should I be either neutral or +1 because it’s a decent theory, even though I don’t think it’s true?
Just curious to know what everyone thinks, and perhaps I’ll make my own post about it so we can all be on the same page in terms of +/- etiquette.
: )
Dear Nat,
I would have remained neutral and not voted. Please see my comments in http://lost-theories.com/theories/2007/aug/10/not-theory-board-etiquette-com/ for why I wouldn’t have given it a -1
But then again, that’s just my opinion…
Thanks for commenting on your minus Nat, While I obviously disagree with you about the writers ability to use the tsunami in the show, I appreciate your comment, Thank you for your honesty.
Hey, i found this thread, and I have to say I hate it! I hate it because it’s plausible and I don’t want it to happen! +1
The only thing is, Your theory is based on the location of the island. Which is still uncertain for me. I like the idea based On yemi’s plane’s travel radius. (can i do two ‘s’s in a sentence? darn english)